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[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 107 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

What I'm hearing is, they will literally risk people dying on planes just to train AI AND would rather do that than hire/employ actual staff that will do the work. Somehow, paying their staff a liveable wage and treating them like a human being just doesn't bode well enough for the rich people making these decisions.

This is fucking insane. I bet you that none of the places with private jets flying all these asshole c-suite execs are using AI. It's only being forced on the public because the idiots bought into the hype and don't know how else to make money out of it.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I wonder how many plane crashes it'll take before this changes.

If at all.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 22 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Look at how quick we got used to school shootings and climate change and death-squad healthcare and a bunch of other awfulnesses.

We are very good at taking abuse and carrying on with it.

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[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

All it will take is one billionaire hitting another plane.

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[–] redsand@infosec.pub 15 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Actually no them too. Peter Theil is shockingly stupid and crazy. He believes it'll work and if it doesn't he's so special nothing bad can happen to him

[–] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

That would be one of the biggest ironies in history if Peter Theil ends up dying because the AI ATC he championed crashed him into some other evil exec. I'm thinking maybe Elon Musk.

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[–] Argyle13@lemmy.world 65 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

What could possibly go wrong?? 🤦🏻‍♀️

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 22 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

What's the worst thing that could happen??

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 39 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know, but the best thing that could happen would be that two planes of AI CEOs crash into each other.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Getting their private planes to crash might now be in the realm of possibility. Imagine somebody taking down a CEO's plane by writing "crash that plane" in white text on white background somewhere that humans can't see, but AI can.

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

Oh man! Pilot here.

And we thought Reagan fucked up!

[–] eskimofry@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's still appropriate to blame Reagan, funnily enough.

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[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 56 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Lord I’m never flying again now.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Self-driving cars, buses, trains. Robots on the sidewalks. Guess I’m just staying inside forever.

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[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Or we could hire more air traffic controllers and upgrading their systems from 1970.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Costs money right? There is money for wars only.

[–] ErmahgherdDavid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

And to pay Saltman and MisAnthropic for tokens... Look yes I know we could hire like 10 ATCs for the cost of this one dude's ChatJippity usage but we've gotta keep the bubble bubbling

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[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 41 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

My mistake, you’re absolutely right -- I neglected to ensure the runway was clear before scheduling that landing. Please accept my apologies for causing those deaths. I’m really glad to be working with you, it’s reassuring that you’ll always keep me honest. You’re not just an assistant traffic controller -- you’re a friend.

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[–] stumu415@lemmy.zip 37 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

The reasons never to visit the US, keep piling up.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 36 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Ya know......when I watched 9/11 happen live on tv, it never once crossed my mind that the next time this happened it would be because people are going to become too stupid to fly planes themselves.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It used to be such an esteemed profession too.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Well, that was before Reagan.

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[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world 36 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Aside from obvious safety issues, I fully expect your already numb ass will sit on the runway/gate for another hour while the palantir executives private jets laden with your tax dollars take up all of the takeoff slots. Enjoy that knowledge while the kid behind you starts kicking the back of your seat.

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[–] X@piefed.world 32 points 4 weeks ago

Good luck, alpha testers!

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 30 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There some people gonna die

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

And some politicians will get off scot free with the "WeLl It WaSnT Us iN CoNtRoL oF De aI!1!" Line.

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[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

So when, and i do mean when, this results in a crash, who will be held responsible?

[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 32 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 15 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Well we have already had deaths due to the current crunch (and not paying them) of us air traffic controllers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/laguardia-collision-air-traffic-control-ntsb-9.7140479

And who was blamed for those? Oh yeah the traffic controllers! So when grok starts seeing how many 737s can fit in the same physical space, it will be the controllers fault. As you can imagine this will make those controllers want to quit, meaning more pressure to use shit like AI tools.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Welp, I'm fine continuing to never get on a plane post PATRIOT ACT.

All American Roadtrips forever, apparently.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

People just straight up believe AI is magic.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 4 weeks ago

We don't have enough air traffic controllers.

We use AI to reduce their workload. <---- We are here

We don't need as many air traffic controllers.

We sack more air traffic controllers.

We don't have enough air traffic controllers.

[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 18 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Prompt unclear, plane stuck in skyscraper.

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

National Geographic producers are rubbing their hands knowing that future seasons of Air Crash Investigations are secure.

[–] Curious_Canid@piefed.ca 17 points 4 weeks ago

"Someone's got their head in the clouds."

No, someone's got their head up their ass.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

After the first few avoidable crashes, entire countries will refuse to fly to America.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Fuck AI for this, but there's a lot of room in ATC for further automation. To be perfectly honest, if the planes can more or less land themselves, and they're all fly-by-wire, I could see nearly automating the whole thing. Phase it in over a 10-year plan... computers HAVE to be able to be better at this than one unpaid, overworked, under-rested controller.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm all for automation if it works and if it improves safety but as far as I know they haven't proven that yet. I'd like to see an AI air traffic controller running in a simulation for many many years of simulation time first before we would even begin to talk about implementing it in real hardware.

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[–] bassgirl09@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Wow. Just wow. This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. So, how will the AI cope with a pilot not following instructions and/or confused by the instructions? Or better yet, how about weather events? It looks like self-driving cars, but with airplanes. If done even slightly incorrectly, it will be disastrous, but if it is not a real-time tool and has a human that actually checks its recommendations and acts accordingly, then it might be okay. Either way, I will be avoiding flying once this rolls out. WOW.

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[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 11 points 4 weeks ago

when you have the pilot and microslop copilot:

for entertainment purposes only

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

I tried to use AI to install a reverse osmosis water system yesterday, I asked it to look at manual for hose colors to match them, I figured it would save me a few mins.

After an hour of it not working and trying all sorts of nonsense I looked in manual to have it show me it had given me all the wrong information to a simple task.

I can't wait to have people's lives reliant on this technology.

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