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[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 168 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

I really don't think that specific emotion is isolated to gen z.

I remember all the promise and excitement that tech had back in the late 00's and early 10's. Things were unique and fun. That's just not true anymore. Every new software update adds shit that you didn't ask for and don't want (AI, ads, removal of user freedom). New hardware releases are either an underwhelming iteration of specs from the previous version, or an unimaginative device that has the same basic look and feel as every other device it's competing with.

Tech used to be fun and exploratory, now it's just companies pushing to see how much they can be allowed to exploit you for the least cost.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't even get me started on the 1990s. Every new processor generation actually felt faster. Web pages had blinking banners because the creator thought it looked cool, not to advertise a personal information vacuum. There was no better introduction to the public's absolutely awful sense of style. But I went from talking to international friends for $0.50/minute to free, and it was amazing.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

personal information vacuum

Introducing the new Dyson vacuum! Maybe this is what they mean when they say it's got a digital motor.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's really just depressing is that these companies are more profitable and worth more than ever before. They don't need to do this. They are essentially tightening their grip on civilization's throat to see how hard they can squeeze before we all die, for the love of the game.

It's also weird because they are opening themselves up to being out-competed by a company that isn't (as) evil. Being not evil is the most valuable market differentiator right now. Companies like Valve that seem to just be sticking with "we have enough money" are like water in the desert.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

valve is not public, rest of big tech is; which means shareholders are god and line must go up whatever the costs involved are, including civilization breakdown & climate change mass extinctions

[–] shrugs@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh boy. If people would just start seeing that open source still gives you exactly this, but you know, Linux is for incels and shit, I much more prefer being spied on by big corp.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Linux and FOSS tech about to become the new mainstream underground punk rock hangout spot.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 2 weeks ago

Always has been.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I feel the same. I quit working in tech. It really has no soul anymore, specially talking to chat bots and agents.

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[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

Things were unique and fun. That’s just not true anymore. Every new software update adds shit that you didn’t ask for and don’t want (AI, ads, removal of user freedom).

Amen. Every time I hear about a new tech product or startup or conference, now all I see are ads, subscription traps, and generally just people looking for new ways to fuck me.

(And I don't like to be fucked by anyone except Mrs. Wallace)

[–] agentTeiko@piefed.social 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm just going to put this here. There are places feel that way again. tildeverse.org

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[–] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 88 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tech in the 1980's - 2010's was hopeful, beneficial, and fairly consumer oriented. Tech today is mostly some sort of scheme for recurring billing while openly assisting the modern surveillance state. It's no wonder modern tech feels icky.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing full of promise turned into the tyrant it swore to never become.

[–] runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

"don't be evil"

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tech used to promise a better life. Now it requires a subscription and wants your biometrics just to lie about pizza toppings to you. Sounds like gen z is on the right path.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Tech is still cool, but subscriptions are not. That is why I like self hosting and open source so much.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I feel like gen z caught the full destruction of 3rd spaces that melenials still caught the tail end of.

I'd love a community space to share my knowledge of pre-zuck-thiel tech with. I feel like the complete destruction of 3rd spaces are part of why there is such poor knowledge xfer between z and millennials

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imagine telling someone in the 80s that in the future so communities computers will need your age and will report it to the government.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago

Is it "discomfort", or a full rejection of the values represented by the enshittified tech companies and their LLM-cronies?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm tired of tech being everywhere from cars to toasters I still prefer analog things that do the job and only that job.

I don't need my internet connected fridg to tell me what groceries to buy while selling my data to insurance companies

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

i don't think it's tech, it's that tech stopped being something that helps you, now it's just things that control you, and it's all so shitty.

being a millennial was nice. almost every new piece of tech was useful and made life easier. but i think it was around 2010ish when it all began going downhill. first, capacitative buttons, then smart everything that didn't help, just monitor you and sell your data. now so much tech is straight up hostile.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember when the first round of capacitive buttons showed up. I can’t find it anymore, but there was an article on a fan site for MP3 players I read in 2010 that showed the comparisons of physical vs capacitive vs touchscreens and capacitive buttons only had negatives. It baffled me when they just never stopped using them on things. That article was burned into my mind and now I see that logic has spilled into a thousand other industries.

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[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I'm a bit older than you, I enjoyed tech when it was an escape and communication/education tool not a requirement even my local library uses an internet connected touch screen to locate books.

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[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 41 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

There's nothing wrong with the technology, it's who is running it all that needs to be fixed, with the general f*ckery that is through everything now I miss my 2400 baud modem that was bigger than my computer and dialing in to a BBS.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

You have my permission to write fuck on the internet. On the fediverse, Zuck is the more offensive four-letter word.

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

Algorithms that are specifically designed to addict you are pretty wrong technology in my eyes. Wouldn’t matter who is running it, that tech is harmful.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yup, almost 70 and tech is fine. Just use what you need and ignore social media is what I do. I also of course do Lemmy. I ran a few BBS’s back in the day. Oodles of fun.

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[–] etherphon@piefed.world 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's universal man. They fucked everything up, don't blame us (everyone) that we don't want to use your garbage tech. What do you expect to happen when you suck all the soul and humanity out of everything, out of daily living? People want that, need that, desire that, well, most people.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Modern technology is great. It's massively cheaper and more performant for orders of magnitude less money.

Consumer technology on the other hand, is cursed.

The problem is that nobody needs to know how to use technology anymore. Every piece of consumer hardware and software is designed so that the company does all of the work for you and then rents you the fruits of the technology. Now you're eternally dependent on someone else to operate your technology for you because you're constantly paying the people that are ensuring your technological ignorance.

Don't worry about learning how to store mp3s or manage your music Library! Just pay Spotify, YouTube Premium, or Apple Music $10/mo!

Don't worry about needing to learn how to backup your data or to store you photos, just give Apple $29.99/mo! Shopping for hardware is hard, learning the difference between a Megapixel and a Megabyte is for nerds! Just buy the iPad, iLaptop, iCamera, iEarbuds, it only costs 50% more than it should!

Dealing with .mp4 and .mkv files, too complicated! Don't worry about needing to learn anything about movies, Netflix/Hulu/Disney/Paramount/Amazon/AppleTV/etc will gladly take your $20/mo and do everything for you!

Don't like your computer's OS being filled with advertising, spyware and AI? Too bad! Your only options are 1. Live in Apple's Walled Garden, 2. Put your entire life's worth of private data on the auction block for the lowest bidding advertiser for the benefit of Microsoft's shareholders or 3. Give your cellphone provider and Google root access to your entire life!

Yes, this is a 'Just use Linux' comment.

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[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's not really discomfort. It's the fact that any benefit technology would give us is being monetized and abused to the point where it's not enjoyable. I have this phone because employers expect to be able to contact me 24/7, and because governments want to spy on me, and companies want to harvest my data so they can profit from me. In return im given just enough to make it to the next day, and a screen to distract me from how fucking pointless our society is.

A skilled/educated American worker should be able to retire comfortably at 50 without having to worry about how they'll afford healthcare.

Companies make millions off you, then you give a few thousand because they know if they ever paid you a fair share, we'd all realize how much they've been robbing us this whole time.

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If I was gen z I would purely hate how I grew up. They got the worst if it. Well, them and alpha.

No wonder so many want to go back, I do as well! Give me all of our civil rights of today (minus US idiocy, I mean actual first world countries ) and take me to 1995-05 somewhere.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I am the oldest of Gen Z having been born in the late 90s. I got the tail end of what the world was like pre-smartphone and gotta say it was better…

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Technology has become a way for the rich to extract more wealth from parts of other people's lives they have no business being in. I sincerely hope we can all get away from that side of it.

[–] M137@lemmy.today 18 points 2 weeks ago

"to live in the past" is so fucking dumb, it shows that the person who wrote that title and the publisher who approved it thinks depending in AI, not caring about the data collected from you, jumping into whatever new popular thing and never having any critical thoughts about where this is all going is a good thing and the future.
They're actually living in the now and making choices from that and for the future, they understand the objectively bad practices and shitty behaviour of the late stage capitalism we're living in.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Bullshit. This sounds like a dumbshit conservative article written in hopes to belittle gen z into boomer thinking.

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[–] f314@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that the problem is not the technology, but who controls it.

If we actually taught digital literacy in schools, and democratized access to technology, people could be making their own software made for solving problems instead of capturing attention!

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Also, when most of the new technology is corporate-fellating AI, surveillance and ad technology, it's also the technology that's the problem.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The sad thing is they aren't really equipped to live in any world but the one being created for them. All the education indicators are trending down. They can't do much without an internet connection and apps

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Tbf non Gen-Z would also struggle if we'd remove their internet sevices suddenly.
It feels like everyone in the cushy countries more or less forgot how to exist outside their world

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I had an idea for a sci-fi setting where criminals are held in stasis like Demolition Man or Minority Report except the point isn’t to keep them away from society or rehabilitate them. It’s to rob them of their time in the present assuming that things are only going to bet worse.

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[–] Fontasia@feddit.nl 7 points 2 weeks ago

It was that good in the 90s, enshittification is only more visible now as you have gotten older and better at identifying it.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Xennial here. I got rid of most social media years ago (FB, twitter, etc.) and never signed up for a lot of others. I'm replacing my google pixel watch with a pebble. I'm open to ditching my android google phone as well once something works properly with all the Japanese government and banking services. Thinking about how to degoogle.

It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows back in the '80s and '90s, but I definitely feel like we should take back some of our balance, security, and comfort (though streaming and recording video can stay).

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[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

I always talk about how life and trends are just a pendulum, And how it swings, and that I have this hope for the generation(s) after me swinging the pendulum in the other direction. I'm born in '87. We embraced technology to the fullest. And now, unfortunately, technology has been ruined, in the fashion of things gaining popularity going to shit. Way she goes.

I have this idea that the pendulum will come back to a point where kids want to separate themselves from the lens of the internet, where you'll be chastised for using your phone. And perhaps this is just some strange (anti?)dystopian story in the making, but a tale as old as time is kids being like "That's not cool, fuck that shit." I'm just hopeful that "that shit" is tiktok and its ilk.

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