white supremacy is a fuck
I think I forget how colonialism has made it seem as if western European white women are the pinnacle of beauty.
obviously that's wrong and the pinnacle of beauty is the girl reading this.
statistically i think she's probably a white girl
Always thought because they're racists obsessed with the purity of the white race and shit
Even incels who aren't white seem to have a weird fascination with white women.
Though I think I answered my own question in that it's probably due to lingering effects of colonialism and whites being broadcast everywhere as the definition of what is attractive
They are. But they’re also self identifying as incels or have sympathy with them. They’re willing to murder a bunch of random white people because they love the white race so much
Lemme tell you about ww2
Elliot Rogers was the result of a white supremacist white guy marrying and Asian woman. This made him insecure because about his looks for obvious reasons. He's an incel because of racism, not the other way around.
Also plenty of incels are obsessed with Asian women. I've met many of them in real life.
I don't understand how you can know enough to ask this question without understanding that most anglophone-internet incels are so racist they make the Klan look like a HOA.
Ive never seen the Klan and a HOA in the same picture im just saying
Incel "theory" is rife with male hierarchy, and misogyny and valuation/objectification is a major part of male hierarchy. White women are at the top of the value list because of racism
Cultural conditioning to perceive Caucasian women as the ethno-hetero-normative standard in life. American cultural hegemony has also spread this cultural perception world-wide as a side-effect of the expansion of American Capital into foreign markets.
I believe a simpler way to put this, quoting Bambu, is that the standard of beauty is truly rooted in whiteface
Bambu spits truth. Really wish we had his "AK crossed with a machete" logo as an emoji.
you mean my hierarchical aspirations toward gender also extend to race?
no, it must be the females whom are wrong
White supremacy causes white incels to feel entitled to white women then feel betrayed and self loathing when they don’t get white girls, and they become murderous when a non white guy dates them
White supremacy also causes non-white incels to feel entitled and self loathing because they don’t get white girls, and then they become even angrier when girls from their culture/race are put off with that behavior
Non-white incels with debilitating internalized racism. I knew a Latino guy who was basically that way. He got into trouble for racially harassing these two black kids in his grade, which was ironic because his main victim was super pale (imagine Logic or Ice Spice) while he was really dark-skinned Chicano. He was insufferable to listen to, though. The only non-offensive thing he talked about was white girls, which was still pretty gross.
These pair beauitfully
because they’re racist pieces of shit. simple as
Death to America
I thought they were obsessed with Asian women that they perceived to be docile and submissive.
There are three types of Sexual Pathology Guys:
- Classical fetishist: Wants a white, submissive, whore-and-madonna wife because he believes in the purity of the white race and wants a nuclear family to live off the grid
- Nu-Fetishist: Hates white women because they’ve been rejected by them or perceive them as too brainwashed by woke communist/Jewish propaganda and only want 15 inch chad cocks and show their boobs everywhere. Wants an Asian wife because she’s perceived as docile and submissive and conservative. Also wants her to be a whore-and-madonna
- Reverse Nu-Fetishist: Hates [their group’s] women because of the same reasons as the Nu-Fetishist, but he prefers white women because she’s perceived as more intelligent and socially valuable
Notice I didn’t say incel because it’s generally a right wing pathology
TV and movies promised them they'd get a wife at some stage and they were generally white women.
Cultural hegemony and mainstream beauty standards
Happy reading
There are some specific incel groups for non-whites, they have to sidestep the white supremacy that is foundational to incel "theory".
How could they be incels if they desire a relationship with another person? Sounds like they broke character lmao.
They're not obsessed with actual white women (or any romantic partner for that matter), they're obsessed with the rhetoric of patriarchy. Their anger is not that patriarchy exists but that they feel left out. They believe that they and only they can perfect it.
Inceldom is what happens when people recognize patriarchy but believe it to be so innate that resistance to it would be futile.
Incel means they want a relationship but can't get one. I think you're thinking of MGTOW.
I always played obrimos in MGTOW
I see, I always thought that incels were suppossed to be some sort of stoic group and that them pining for a relationship was suppossed to be the mask off moment, but I see it's more complicated than that.
MGTOW sounds even worse.
@BeamBrain@hexbear.net is right:
MGTOW is older, I believe mostly GenX and to some extent Boomer, and was "a thing" earlier on where they tried to pass themselves off as a legitimate movement. "Self help for men" type shit. Even trying to influence law to get the courts to grant more rights to fathers in custody cases (which I admit is not 100% always a bad thing). Most of that is a pretense though, and it becomes immediately obvious when you talk to them that they are of course nothing more than flaming misogynists with a persecution complex. Again, they tend to be older so a good percentage of them have been married and divorced, often with grotesque sob stories about how their wives stole everything from them, and now they're struggling triumphantly to reclaim their masculinity or some shit. But it's just usual run of the mill misogyny and anti-feminism.
Incel on the other hand grew entirely out of internet culture, and so never had that earlier GenX-like air of legitimacy. They tend not to have ever had wives or even girlfriends, as one of their defining grievances is that they are virgins, and will remain so for the foreseeable future if not indefinitely. Hence "involuntary celibacy." It's not really a cohesive movement as much as a nebulous, twisted internet subculture with varying degrees of incels tying to make it a movement or coherent ideology. Like most subcultures they have their own terminolgy and sickeningly sexist language but are united really by their extreme hatred of women and a sense of shattered privilege because they suffered the social but very personal crime against them of not by default getting the hot /insert misogynistic slur/ to fuck that society always promised them.
That's how it's been as far as what I've come across anyway.
Edit: But lol, Incels are not stoic. They tend to be extremely whiny and entitled. They have no inner calmness, but a constantly simmering rage against women, and, as this thread and their violent rhetoric and actions makes evident that rage simmers for People of Color too. And often even a more general rage for society itself, but for misogynistic and patriarchal reasons, anything they can twist into being the cause of them being denied their god given right to women's bodies. They are the complete opposite of stoic. The NoFap movement which has some crossover with Incels tries to be stoic in some ways for obvious reasons. And there was crossover because NoFap offered a "cure" of sorts for some portion of Incels. To be clear, NoFap as a movement is also filled with misogyny and has some very weird beliefs bordering on esoteric about super powers and shit like that. But they also come with the generally good and obvious advice that if you are addicted to something, breaking that addiction can be beneficial. Specifically giving up an extreme porn addiction is undoubtedly a positive step for many of these men. But it's only one step among many needed to have any hope of breaking them of their pathologically patriarchal ideology.
I suspect you got the stoic part either from the joke we make of it here about being VolCels, (and fuck yeah we VolCels incorporate Stoicism in keeping our vital fluids to ourselves) or because of the Incel-NoFap venn diagram wedge.
Thank you, that was informative.
yw. I hope you feel nice and educated now. lol Even added a bit more with an edit. I actually wish I didn't know some of this shit, but I'm high and can't sleep, so why not go on a diatribe about the lineage and dogma of misogynistic shitstains?
I imagine they wouldn’t be happy even if they do get to participate in the patriarchy. They hate themselves more than anything, as seen with their negative feedback loop in the community. They watch too many movies and anime and think some hot girl will fix their lives for them while they play Mario all day
because they want to be whites or are whites and they are birth of the nation-brained
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