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[–] poke@sh.itjust.works 50 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In this thread: perfect being the enemy of better.

Overall I am very happy with companies interacting with and funding the open source development community. I respect framework a whole lot more than dell, for example.

[–] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

Or the other manufacturer of high quality aluminium dev-spec laptops, who sent their CEO to the White House to give Trump a golden plaque.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 25 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Cool, but have they stopped supporting Nazis though?

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 19 hours ago

worth noting the platforms they use, too. they still promote their mastodon & bluesky accounts on their website, but they basically haven’t posted there in 4 months, since that’s where people called them on for their bullshit

on xitter tho? not only are they posting much more there, they’ve even paid the elon tax for that sweet blue checkmark!

framework, like any organization that declares itself a "big tent", has embraced their new audience of fascists even if it means disregarding everyone else.

i only hope kde can escape the toxic sludge this connection will bring them.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 19 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I believe so: https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships

But if so, it is more that they are simply not continuing to make additional contributions in the future. There was no apology for any confusion or anything like that, and they seem to be sticking to their "big tent" philosophy.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They never gave Omarchy money directly from what I'm aware, just gave them shoutouts. Still not okay though

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 9 points 14 hours ago

Not quite technically "money directly", but definitely more than just "shoutouts"

We’ve sent out large quantities of hardware to folks at Fedora, Bluefin, Bazzite, NixOS, Arch Linux, Linux Mint, Omarchy, and many other distros, and have sponsored either the organizations directly or events with Linux Foundation, LVFS, NixOS, Debian, KDE, Hyprland, and others.

https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hyprland is still on the list

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

What is wrong with Hyprland?

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 13 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

A former moderator on their official Discord forum made some offensive remarks or something. That soured the entire project for some people for good, I guess.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've seen screenshots and their comments were pretty disgusting

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

And those comments don't reflect the views of the devs. The mod was the issue

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -2 points 13 hours ago

It really takes nothing for people to become eternal haters.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you referring to Omarchy by David Heinemeier Hansson? He's definitely a racist and not sponsored by Framework.

Can we also please stop calling every piece of shit a nazi?

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 24 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

If someone is a violent ethnonationalist I'm gonna call them a Nazi. I think my earlier reply already addresses your first point.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 23 hours ago
[–] skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 22 points 23 hours ago

Someone else probably can give better context, but basically Framework donated money to one project that had some controversy (I never actually saw much evidence for it being severe enough to really cause the type of backlash that Framework got) and repeatedly and disproportionately promoted another project by someone who seemingly to want mass deportation of brown people in London/UK and promotes such with the platform. Someone called framework on those two things and the CEO's response on their forum was a "we want to run a big OOS tent" and then went to xitter to whine about the community being mean to them.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 15 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 1 points 34 minutes ago

It's a bad time to learn that hyprland community is toxic. I've used it for a long while now pretty comfortably.

Seeing Framework give money to DHH is like watching someone step on a rake and defending it.

I'm tired of idiots who defend anything as long as they like it, and only care about morality when they're offended.

I saw the same thing happen with popular new game Mewgenics where creator of Binding of Isaac, Edmund, defended including Chris Chan, who couldn't be found guilty of SA'ing their demented mother on account of their autism.

It's not only decision but the defense that makes these things look bad. They need to give money to fascists. They need to include controversial people. The people who defend it seem like they perceive criticism as personal attacks and retaliate in bad faith arguments.

At this point I'm venting. Lemmy is great because it tends to attract people who are less pressured to conform to their tribes, which is great for having authentic discussions.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Love these guys. Have one of their laptops and one of my friends recently ordered one as well. :)

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 7 points 14 hours ago

I wanted to buy one but they are so damn expensive. DDR5 profes don't help neither.

[–] Skv@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Laptops looked neat, then I looked at pricing and possible I/O combos and Lenovo still kills it.

[–] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 hours ago

Saw them as a possible thinkpad replacement but noped at the pricing then double noped after the I/O options. They are awesome machines though, glad they're around, without them I'm not so sure Lenovo would have made the new T series so repairable.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Framework is nothing more, than a compromise with the enshittification came from the push of techbro journos soyfacing over ultrathin Macbooks, and having meltdowns if a notebook isn't made with "high quality premium materials".

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yep and the reduced gnome down to $0 after gnome called them nazi’s

good work gnome, you played yourself

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

Oh, I should start donating to Gnome.

[–] kugmo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago

who are they sponsoring that has killed jewish people?