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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 27 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Cool, but have they stopped supporting Nazis though?

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 1 day ago

worth noting the platforms they use, too. they still promote their mastodon & bluesky accounts on their website, but they basically haven’t posted there in 4 months, since that’s where people called them on for their bullshit

on xitter tho? not only are they posting much more there, they’ve even paid the elon tax for that sweet blue checkmark!

framework, like any organization that declares itself a "big tent", has embraced their new audience of fascists even if it means disregarding everyone else.

i only hope kde can escape the toxic sludge this connection will bring them.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I believe so: https://frame.work/blog/framework-sponsorships

But if so, it is more that they are simply not continuing to make additional contributions in the future. There was no apology for any confusion or anything like that, and they seem to be sticking to their "big tent" philosophy.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They never gave Omarchy money directly from what I'm aware, just gave them shoutouts. Still not okay though

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 13 points 19 hours ago

Not quite technically "money directly", but definitely more than just "shoutouts"

We’ve sent out large quantities of hardware to folks at Fedora, Bluefin, Bazzite, NixOS, Arch Linux, Linux Mint, Omarchy, and many other distros, and have sponsored either the organizations directly or events with Linux Foundation, LVFS, NixOS, Debian, KDE, Hyprland, and others.

https://community.frame.work/t/framework-supporting-far-right-racists/75986

[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hyprland is still on the list

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

The creator, Vaxry, made many hateful comments. Mostly on Discord. I'm in the Arch Linux Community discord, which he got banned from a few years ago (I was not there at the time), and his message history there has tons of bad takes.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A former moderator on their official Discord forum made some offensive remarks or something. That soured the entire project for some people for good, I guess.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've seen screenshots and their comments were pretty disgusting

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

And those comments don't reflect the views of the devs. The mod was the issue

[–] lastweakness@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago

Wait, really? The devs don't share those views?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -4 points 18 hours ago

It really takes nothing for people to become eternal haters.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Are you referring to Omarchy by David Heinemeier Hansson? He's definitely a racist and not sponsored by Framework.

Can we also please stop calling every piece of shit a nazi?

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If someone is a violent ethnonationalist I'm gonna call them a Nazi. I think my earlier reply already addresses your first point.

[–] skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Someone else probably can give better context, but basically Framework donated money to one project that had some controversy (I never actually saw much evidence for it being severe enough to really cause the type of backlash that Framework got) and repeatedly and disproportionately promoted another project by someone who seemingly to want mass deportation of brown people in London/UK and promotes such with the platform. Someone called framework on those two things and the CEO's response on their forum was a "we want to run a big OOS tent" and then went to xitter to whine about the community being mean to them.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's a bad time to learn that hyprland community is toxic. I've used it for a long while now pretty comfortably.

Seeing Framework give money to DHH is like watching someone step on a rake and defending it.

I'm tired of idiots who defend anything as long as they like it, and only care about morality when they're offended.

I saw the same thing happen with popular new game Mewgenics where creator of Binding of Isaac, Edmund, defended including Chris Chan, who couldn't be found guilty of SA'ing their demented mother on account of their autism.

It's not only decision but the defense that makes these things look bad. They need to give money to fascists. They need to include controversial people. The people who defend it seem like they perceive criticism as personal attacks and retaliate in bad faith arguments.

At this point I'm venting. Lemmy is great because it tends to attract people who are less pressured to conform to their tribes, which is great for having authentic discussions.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago

I mean if just the community is toxic I just wouldn't participate - if it's some negative trait is that. I can use a tool and not contribute to that toxicity.

But for moral issues like supporting a project that I'm turn supports fascism, homophobia, etc. I will protest by simply not bring a user. I don't make this part of my identity, I probably should though - I don't check these things, I only find out.

It's a bummer too because I was planning on getting a framework laptop. Wound up just getting another Lenovo business laptop secondhand lol.