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edit: the date isn't happening anymore. he texted me asking if we could change the venue as he realized he can't really afford that restaurant at the moment (???, why was this realization so last minute) & i told him no worries i can pay for everything. he told me no way i could ever let a girl pay, it's not fair to the girl and also "emasculating" to him. hate that attitude. called it off and cut contact. thank u, next.

So I hit this guy up on Insta, and we’ve been chatting for the past few days, calling and video calling and all that. Tonight he’s taking me out to dinner; just a date, nothing more. I talk to my parents about everything, and they told me to observe his behavior but keep an open mind.

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[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Someone who has been having adult relationships for 15 years is going to be able to convince somebody with 0 years of adult relationships of whatever they want. Whether you feel happy or loved, eventually that power imbalance has a high chance of causing serious problems for you that you couldn't have seen coming.

Do it if you want, but go into it knowing that you are probably just a toy and probably won't know until you are set up for a really bad time when you finally see all the things you are currently blind to.

If you need an analogy, think about having a cooking competition between a beginner and a 15 year professional. The beginner probably has no idea how hard they are about to get smoked if they are thinking about their opponent as just another person who likes to cook.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I consider myself an old man at this point being the right old age of 43 and I think older men creeping on little girls, and I’m sorry but I consider girls under 30 little girls, gross.

[–] Waldelfe@feddit.org 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm 40 (1985). I've had my experiences with older guys hitting on me when I was your age. I can tell you that, in my experience, the reason why men like that won't date in their own age group is because women their age see the red flags more clearly or won't put up with their bullshit.

Here are some things he might do to look out for: Does he try to impress you with things that are achievements for your age group but should be normal for his? Having a car, having their own apartment, having money to take you out etc. Maybe he'll offer to drive you places or stay at his place to get away from your parents.

Does he comment a lot on your age and experience level. Things like "Have you already done (alcohol, sex...)", "I've done XYZ, but you wouldn't know about it". Or does he act overly impressed by you 'already' knowing something, like music from his teenage years, having a job or just some common knowledge he thinks is "adult", maybe about cars or jobs. Basically, does he act like you are special, more mature for your age or does he talk about your age a lot.

Even if he doesn't do any of these things, I'd advice you against it. The age gap is too big. The world of an 18 year old who just got out of school is just very different from a 33 year old who is working a job. Having a few hobbies or music taste in common isn't the same as being in the same place in life.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

call me old, but a 33 yr old going on a date with a 18 yr old... yea, red flag

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 13 points 1 day ago

93 was only 10 yea... oh my god.

[–] datavoid@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

33/2 + 7 = 23.5

That's a no

[–] violet08@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

the date isn't happening anymore. he texted me asking if we could change the venue as he realized he can't really afford that restaurant at the moment (???, why was this realization so last minute) & i told him no worries i can pay for everything. he told me no way i could ever let a girl pay, it's not fair to the girl and also "emasculating" to him. hate that attitude. called it off and cut contact. thank u, next.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

He's almost twice your age and can't afford to pay for dinner while you can?

“emasculating” to him.

I guess it was kind of him to just hand you the giant 🚩instead of making you do any guess work.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So, you're 18 and he is 33?

It's said if you divide your age by 2 and add 7 you roughly get the youngest age you can date. That would be 23,5. Personally, I've come to the believe any gap of 10 years or more is too much. Your just in too different parts of your life. There is often a bad power balance and simply different needs.

Go on the date, have fun, but I wouldn't get serious.

[–] violet08@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] Auntievenim@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

People born in 2008 are 18 💀💀

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some people are also consciously or subconsciously looking for a younger partner, because they will put up with their bullshit, while someone more experienced would not. Definitely look out for that, but it's hard to tell in the beginning.

[–] mr_anny@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or maybe the older and more experienced are overly needy when selecting partner and red flag just about anything that isn't precisely in their preferences. Younger tend to be more fluid.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, it’s hard to know without meeting that other person. Maybe they’ve dated a ton of people in their own age group and are just having no luck whatsoever other than meeting walking red flags. So they’re aiming for a younger person who hasn’t been screwed up in life yet. I know plenty of people In their 30s, who are so screwed up, you wouldn’t want to date them. So I would advise the original poster to go in with their eyes open, but have fun. There are plenty of people who have bigger Age gaps than that and they’re very happy. we really shouldn’t be calling the other person, a pedophile or a creep without having ever met them. I literally the only thing we know about the other person is they’re going out on a date with somebody.

Personally, I would’ve preferred to aimed for somebody who was 23 instead of 18. That five years could make quite a difference, but I’m also not going to judge because at 18 they’re an adult they can do what they want. And i recognize at 18 your brain is still developing. Then again there are people whose age is 45 and the brain is still developing. There are people who are age 38 who are so toxic you wouldn’t want to be anywhere near them, you probably don’t even want to live next to them in the next house over.

[–] mr_anny@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now that's one mature comment.

Best thing to do is to go and see for oneself.

Age per se is no flag. Behaviour is the real thing.

I once looked at some dating apps such as tinder. The lists from 30-50 of what they are searching for was in general like external qualities and for personal traits something that simply do not exist. Only those who could mask themselves, could meet the expectstions. I quickly removed myself.

If there is a possibility to meet person, use it.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Age per se is no flag

there's a huge difference between a 30 yr old and 45 yr old dating, and a 30 yr old dating a 15 yr old-- even though the 15 year age gap is the same

a 33 year old trying to get with a 18 year old is sus af, and i'll die on that hill

[–] mr_anny@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah.

I was talking about legslly adults, not minors. Within that bracket age trivial.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

call the shit off. there are plenty of not-pedophiles 25 or under for you to date

i guess i can see that most guys your age are childish/inexperienced, and that's the appeal of "older" men. but let me tell you something (as a guy well over 45): if a dude hasn't grown up by 25, then they're not going to grow up. yea, there's definitely a "type" of 30+ yr old dude who wants to hook up with teenagers, and i'd advise you against it.

be careful with this one-- above all, stay in public, cover your drink

[–] Womble@piefed.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can we please not demean the horrors of child sexual abuse by conflating it with two concenting adults going on a date, even if you find the age gap icky.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

please tell me exactly what part of my comment conflates anything with child sexual abuse

[–] Womble@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The part where you call someone going on a date with an 18 year old a paedophile.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

do you have kids? are you totally cool with your daughter going out with someone who's closer to your age than to hers? the fact that so many people in here are cheering on this person over 30 hooking up with someone under 20 is really fucked up to me

[–] MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I don't see anyone cheering. I see people debating the ethics and morality of the situation.

Your feelings about your daughter are valid. You are more than welcome to use every tool at your disposal to ensure that she doesn't date older men. This is expected; you are there to protect her. But don't expect everyone to feel the same way. Many younger women look for an older, financially stable man. Many older men are willing to enter long-term committed relationships and financially provide for a younger woman.

If you want your daughter to avoid this situation, make sure she's well-educated and independent. Instead of coddling her, challenge her to achieve her goals and excel in her field.

[–] Womble@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You may be shocked to learn that there are positions available between loving the idea of your adult daughter going on a date with someone 10 years older than her and screaming "pedo!" at them.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fair enough. i'll concede maybe the 33 year old dating the 18 year old isn't necessarily a "pedo"

going on a date with someone 10 years older than her

18 vs 33 is NOT 10 years. why would you try to change OPs situation into a 10 year age gap, when it's literally 15 years? and before you say "what's the big deal," try that argument with a 30 yr old dating a 15 yr old-- same age gap, only 3 years difference-- what's the big deal?

look, i usually don't chime in on violet's posts with old people advice, but in this case she specifically asked for advice, and my advice to ANY woman under 25 is this-- be very wary of dudes 15 years older than you trying to get in your pants. take it or leave it

[–] Womble@piefed.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thats fine, I'd agree with that advice, though I dont think its a 100% never ever do this under any situation.

My sole point was that a young woman going on an ill advised date should not be mixed up with children being raped, which is what you were doing by calling someone going on a date with an 18 year old a pedo. That would apply if the man in question was 28 or 68.

[–] U7826391786239@piefed.zip -1 points 1 day ago

you are correct in that 18 is technically "legal." barely. my position is still that under 25 = kid, without the life experience to realize how fucking creepy it is for someone over 30 to pursue a teenager. again, subtract one year from each side (32 yr old dating 17 yr old), and your argument based solely on "legal age" no longer works.

ultimately OP does what she wants regardless, and it looks like the date is off, which makes me glad. as an old guy, i know guys, and i know the type of guy who actively goes after the youngest possible women. they are best avoided

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With that big of an age gap, what do you folks even have in common to talk about??

[–] violet08@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

we talk about life, interests, hobbies, politics, small talk, random stuff; the basics, everything and anything. haven't felt a gap in terms of communication

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

What? No, too big a gap.

[–] ValiantDust@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not necessarily as simple as "just observe his behavior". Sure, if this is someone who dates young women routinely and on purpose, the guy might show obvious red flags. But even if his motives are "innocent", the dynamics with even much smaller age gaps are usually very unhealthy and unequal, at least in my experience and especially when one partner is not at least in their mid-twenties. Often it's something they only realise much later.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

bruh that's such a huge red flag, honestly i'm confused if this post is genuine or bait..

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago

It seems that you are seeking dangerous behaviors on purpose. Don't do that.

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone's concerned about the gap... No one has asked where he's taking you

Obviously don't give the exact restaurant but is it a chain? a lovely little bistro? independent restaurant?

Or somewhere wank like Cafe Rouge

[–] violet08@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it's a nice restaurant part of a 4 star hotel. i suggested it as i've eaten there many times before and i know the food and experience is bomb

Well, good luck, have fun, don't die

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's a bit big age gap. But as long as you don't get yourself killed and learn from the experience you'll be fine in the end.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago

My partner is a lot younger than me. But when we meet we were at similar life stages: she was starting a first career, and I was changing mine. Our age gap then was smaller, both absolutely and relatively, than yours.

Anything can work, but each red flag makes it less likely. If you're not after something serious, who gives a shit. If you are, be on high alert. Is he a man child? Is he controlling and finds young people easier to control? The latter is hard to find out before it becomes a problem.

I went on some dates (before I met my partner) with more similar gaps to what you're talking about, though still none so extreme (university town - more than half the people I dated back then were staff or students at the university). It became obvious to me that while these people were nice and smart and funny, it was going to be difficult to have a long term relationship, practically, because of that difference in life stage.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Big red flag? Maybe, probably, I would say that it depends mostly on who hit on who and how it went from there.

As the older guy I would feel really really weird in that situation, but I'm older than that.

Anyway, I have many friends that in their early twenties hit on older men, it's not that uncommon. So I would say that if it was your idea and you feel safe, go ahead, have fun.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

That is close to the difference between me and my partners youngest sister. I still pretty much see her as a child. You are younger than her.

[–] Ryoae@piefed.social -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] violet08@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

sigh... if you'd actually read that rule in full, you'd have been able to tell that it refers to technical/site support

[–] DoubleDongle@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

Unless you want to be used by an older man for sex or groomed to serve a naturally abusive personality profile, bail. But if you don't bail, consider therapy.