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Sometimes the conspiracy theorists pop out of their echo chamber and make a statement that seems reasonable and widely accepted to them but can only be believed if you first believe 17 layers of propaganda, leaps of logic and generally brainrot. Usually all fed to them by bigots and billionaires.
Then are then surprised by normal people clowning on them and instead of reflecting, they just tell themselves they know something the normies don't and that makes them special.
It's worse than an echo chamber that they have. It's isolated improv. They aren't just agreeing, they're "yes and"ing. Collective world building without critical thought, disagreement, or awareness that it isn't how reality works.
They are "roleplaying" with each other. Telling lies and conspiracy stories that they know are fiction, but MAGA is actually tolerant of other MAGA and as long as you are telling fiction about something that is close to MAGA they will pretend to believe it.
Except about 10% actually take that batshit crazy stuff serious.
You know that makes me want to post
Back in 2016, there was something amazing: /r/TheDonald/
I was following that in amazement. Donnie T capitalized on the army of detached dummies (deplorables) that had been cultivated by decades of Fox News (-style media). They were so detached that even mainstream republicans couldn't get a hold - Donnie T would just go further.
And by the time the 2016 election got closer, that /r/ would just go more unhinged. All the Dems and old Reps were (satanist) pedo's and if Donnie jusy got elected, he'd have them hang before the end of his first month.
Crazily, the rest of them never opposed them. They didn't call them out on it. They just went along as if they were some kind of aligned faction.
Of course after they won there were some stragglers wondering out loud when the massive pedo roundups were going to happen, but after a while that fizzled out.
Most of them are more than happy to ally themselves with the complete loonies
It clicked for me when I noticed that a lot of MAGA were just trolling. They go out in their "regalia" with Trump flags flying and see who they can bother. They like it when they get to yell and scream at "the libs" when they get yelled at for their flag ... its a social game.
Its the same as listening to each other tell obviously fake stories. "What?!? JFK Jr. is not dead? He is coming back to be Trumps running mate?" "What? Micheal Jackson isn't dead?"
Corporate billionaires then weaponized this. Hatred sells. That is a commercially proven fact. The woke agenda is born. Trans hatred. Gay pride. They focused in on things that made MAGA a little uncomfortable and started telling their own lies and stories about them and MAGA goes along with it because they dont want to get kicked out of "the game".
They also say things that don't make any sense if someone understands how a calendar works.
I'm trying to wrap my head around that statement but I can't come with any explanation why that should be the case.
Because it’s absurd nonsense
Candice Owens has suggested that various powers that be played a role in Kirk's assassination, particularly for speaking out against Israel.
Candace thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
Because Kirk had reportedly refused to keep taking money from a prominent Israeli donor, and didn't want to keep being so pro-Zionist.
Frankly, I don't actually think that's totally impossible, though its far from conclusively proven.
However, if you know anything about guns or ballistics... the scenario that has thus far been presented by the FBI as to the kind of weapon that shot Kirk and the angle and distance he was shot from...
Its completely impossible, and does not align with the evidence on the scene.
If Kirk had been shot from basically the front, by a 30.06, in the neck, it would have blown half of his neck off, there would have been a massive back blast of viscera behind him.
What the actual wounds from the autopsy point toward is that roughly a 5.56 round from Kirk's above and right, entered his neck on the right side, traversed around and through various parts of his neck, untill it ended up severing the corotid artery on his right side and lodging itself into his left collar bone.
That bullet trajectory actually matches the specific injuries from the autopsy, and the video evidence.
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away... would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose... there's an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
You can run all the math on the physics of this yourself if you doubt it. I've already done it, search through my comment history if you want to see it.
while I sorta doubt you did the "math on the physics", my bigger worry is referring to .30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware.
but stating, factually, that there is "zero chance" of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible. there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.
while I sorta doubt you did the "math on the physics"
As I said, look through my comment history.
.30-06 as 30.06, as one of those doesn't exist, as far as I'm aware.
Oh my god, I made a formatting typo, therefore I am wrong.
but stating, factually, that there is "zero chance" of the bullet embedding in the collarbone, is pretty irresponsible.
Not it isn't, because I am correct, about a 30 awktua 06, from the range it was fired from, impacting Kirk at the angle it did.
You must I guess not be aware or how the intial reports from before the autopsy was fully done/released were that Charlie Kirk must have just had literally superhuman bone strength.
Kolvet claimed a doctor told him Kirk’s “incredibly dense bone” stopped a high-powered round that entered his neck during the September 10 shooting at Utah Valley University.
“It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed. It should have gone through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too,” Kolvet quoted the surgeon as saying. Instead, the bullet lodged beneath the skin. He added that Kirk’s body prevented it from striking people standing behind him.
“Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him,” Kolvet wrote.
This is, as we say, fucking obvious horseshit.
You of course don't know about this, because you have not done any research into the actual Kirk assassination whatsoever.
There are many, many more things that involved people said, elements of the supposed story of how Kirk got got... that do line up, that do not make sense, that are inconsistent.
I'm not confident enough to say 'Israel killed Kirk' because I have not yet seen conclusive evidence of that.
But I am confident enough to say that the official FBI story is full of obvious holes, say what I said about the 30000000.6, that this all stinks to high heaven.
there are a multitude of other things that need to be accounted for in ballistics analysis, which even then can be misinterpreted.
You could go look through my comment history to see doing that, or, you can just assume I didn't.
I've designed entire realistic ballistic physics models for games and mods, I've shot firearms, I'm one of the 'realism purists' when it comes to tactical shooters.
I've made ballistic models that will figure out likely penetration/ricochet/splatter apart impact angles, when a bullet of various speeds and itself being made of different materials, in different configurations (FMJ, HP, etc), impacts against different materials, which are themselves layered volumetrically.
You don't need anywhere near that level of real world physical fidelity to be able to confidently state what I stated. Its rather trivial.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose… there’s an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
I mean...not to be THAT GUY but this line alone is pretty off. Depends on may factors like any other round, but 5.56 has 1/2-2/3 the energy of a 30-06 round at about 200yd. Ballistic data is pretty easy to come by. Saying that you've programmed some stuff for a few games and simulated models doesn't mean anything at all when your scientific measurement is an imaginary moose femur at 500yds.
Anyway...they have a shooter and his rifle, so I don't even know why we're still discussing caliber.
A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away, from the front... would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.
It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.
A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose... there's an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.
So, knowing nothing about 5.56 rounds but having shot a .30-06 at moose/deer/elk: in the 100-200 yard range the bullet will break a rib, travel through the lungs/heart/etc and then often exit the other side on a smaller animal (deer), or be sitting just inside the hide of a larger one (elk/moose).
I have no opinions on the rest of it that's just been my experience.
Mental illness can cause you to have irrational thoughts.
Sly way of saying that Israel killed Kirk, who knows with Israel, could be true.
Israel’s big reveal is going to be that they did in fact send an agent to the western hemisphere hundreds of years ago just to bury some golden tablets in upstate New York and will be activating the entirety of Deseret with the phrase “Hie to Kolob”.
Knowing how conspiratorial and antisemitic (as opposed to rightfully antizionist) she is, I'm going to assume she's implying that THE (((JEWS)))™️ assassinated Kirk and then went to war with Iran with us as their meat puppet ally.
A MAGA killed Charlie Kirk so MAGA had NO CHOICE but to Bomb and Iranian School in Response!
This was pushed hard when it happened but I've never seen anything actually pointing to him being MAGA. He was raised in a right wing household but also dated someone trans and killed a right wing spokesman.
His social media got nuked right away so not much on that side. It was probably a mixed bag which is maybe more dangerous to have in the news in terms of inciting copycats. Easier if both sides blame it on the other, wouldn't want anyone to see himself in him.
That being said, I don't think his allegiance matters as much as the fact that Charlie deserved it. If you are punching Nazis, you are a good guy in my book.
He was part of a group that thought maga was too soft. Any left in there was a buffer overrun.
If you mean the groypers, was that ever proven? It was an early accusation but I don't remember seeing proof, other than groypers hate Kirk.
I don't think that ended aligning with the facts. In all respects he would be "swing voter" in the midwest ; he was largely apolitical and killed kirk because kirk spread hate about people he cared about.
Which is 100% true of charlie kirk no matter who you are. Kirk was anti women, anti trans, deeply racist, and deeply annoying. There is nobody who doesn't have one of his hated groups in their family and who doesn't have some reason to be annoyed by him.
MAGA just doesn't think like that. They think putting women in their proper place isn't anti women its pro women because if they have traditional values imposed upon them then they will have a more happy fulfilled life. For those with minority associates or family members that they don't silently hate they rationalize that they are among the "good ones" Ask them if they hate black people and wait for them to tell you that they don't they hate n words which are somehow different than black people. Their compartmentalization is perfect. They see no tension with believing black people in general are bad but the ones THEY know to be good are good.
whenever I get high I just post shit like this
I actually thought (I know, I'm stupid) that Candace genuinely cared about Kirk and was genuinely upset she lost her friend.
But now I see she's just milking his "legacy" for self promotion and grifting attention, just like the Erika.
Who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?
Someone who died for what they believed in
Said belief just happened to be that potentially getting shot in the neck is a small price to pay for everyone to have guns
The theory is Israel killed charlie kirk because he was pushing back against israel
I much prefer the real story about somebody killng charlie kirk because he was an annoying rich guy.
It can be both.
Intelligence agencies love to gently nudge and provide support to someone who might do their dirty work for them.
That said it's way more likely they have kompramat on Trump and also that he is senile and thinks he is back in the 80s during the hostage crisis.
Can anyone explain because my brain’t
The poster in the screenshot is a moron. Charlie Kirk was assassinated 2025 Sept. The Iran war was illegally started LITERALLY LAST WEEK. They are trying to weaponize Kirks death and make him relevant again. This is a huge disgrace in my opinion, bc of both the insane time duration b/t Sept 2025 and today, and also completely ignoring the deaths of ACTUAL US SERVICEMEN and SERVICEWOMEN that came about due to this war.
Edit: the iran war started 2-3 weeks ago. My bard. But my point still stands.
Can I have your bard?
His bard is infamous for fudging the numbers. What numbers do you need fudging?
"And its still the utmost tragedy that he was so mercilessly slaughtered."
"And the US soldiers and civilians in Iran that have been killed since the illegal war actually started?"
"Ehh, these things happen."
Capitalising the word "war" as if it was a deity makes sense for an American politician
Why does Candace Owens suck Charlie Kirk's dead dick so hard? He famously hated black people, especially black women. He would not have gone to bat for her like she does for him.
The worst part of it is people genuinely eat this shit up
They couldn’t blame the liberals so now they need crackpot theories.