i don't know why i didn't expect hisense to do it.
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IF YOU BUY ANY TV, DO NOT CONNECT IT TO THE INTERNET.
Televisions were never meant to be smart devices. There's no reason your screen should have software of its own. That would be like your face having a mind of its own.
Ummm,
I would resort to violence, Holy shit.
Anyone has a list of TV manufacturers that don't suck yet?
I used to recommend Sceptre, but even they appear to have stopped making dumb TVs now too.
Ohh it's not wrongdoing and when we refuse to buy anything from them, they're getting what they gave.
I reminds me I should start writing my clickbait "(Millennials/GenZ/GenA or whatever) are killing TV manufactureres" article
Okay, so strike Hisense products from the list of brand I'll ever buy from
The list is getting pretty big.
This is why, for years, I've been trying to point out that "if you don't like it, just don't buy it" isn't good enough. Boycotts aren't enough; we have to force the law to change to prohibit the abusive corporate behavior.
At this rate it is easier to do a whitelist than a blacklist
So far, I haven't seen any of this with my Hisense TV. I have a Pihole but I believe smart TV's, at least this brand, has a hard-coded dns so it can dial home without going through my default dns.
A hard coded DNS means nothing when it’s not connected to the internet
Relatedly, Hisense also forces updates and disables use of the TV if you do not accept the update (via a full screen non-cancelable prompt).
I learned this the hard way after Hisense broke my TV via an update that I didn't want and then refused to fix it even after 6 months of escalations and emails.
They’re not alone, either. I had to downgrade my Visio just to use the features that it shipped with. I’m sure this is illegal, but no one cares unless you’re rich.
I outright told them it's illegal, since they are unilaterally altering the terms of any T&C agreements when we started using the TV and materially interfering with our ownership and use of the TV we purchased. They didn't care. I then sent it to our state attorney general and nothing happened.
You can likely sue them in small claims court. Many states let you file for a couple hundred dollars and will give you 3x damages if you win.
The most likely outcome is they settle when the court date approaches or dont show and you win hy default.
I got a Hisense tv in November and never connected it to the internet. Now I am extremely pleased that I never connected it.
I have a HiSense TV and use ADB AppControl to disable/remove the telemetry or forced updates, and Projectivy Launcher to get a home screen/launcher that doesn't show ads. Both are free and work really well. I don't see trash on my homescreen anymore.
Good call!
I'd also like to share another option for folks: Flauncher. I've been using it for a few years - it's very clean and lightweight.
You can set it as the default using ADB commands, or install it directly from the Play Store and use adhoc.
https://gitlab.com/flauncher/flauncher
Paired with a button remapper and set as default, I honestly haven't seen the stock Android interface in years. (Like you, I've also used ADB to disable telemetry etc on TV, and replaced google play with Fdroid and Aurora)
PS: For the uninitiated, these are also worth installing:
https://smarttubeapp.github.io/
Gives you ad-free YouTube and then some.
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.courville.nova/
Lets you connect a hard drive to your router and create your own local media streaming frontend ala Netflix (or plug your hard drive / USB directly into your TV; it doesn't care).
While it lacks some of the polish, it's simpler than Jellyfin or Plex.
Until sept 2026...
Do you really think Google will approve those APKs once they have fully lockdown android (that includes Google TV)?
That's why this push from google to kill the APK installation without their blessing infuriates me!
Well, in fairness, Flauncher and Nova launcher are on the play store. Irrespective, there are ways to install things now and then harden against google, such as blocking MAC address, Pinhole, disabling updates etc.
Alternatively, an android dongle (like Onn) is an option, however I would advise against Amazon Fire sticks and the like (telemetry, locked down)
Alternatively, make your own. A Raspberry Pi CM4 TV Stick that plugs into HDMI is one known option. If Andorid (and ASOP) become as locked down as you fear, there will be other options - Kodi, LineageOS TV etc.
If Android wants to shit the bed, no problem. It's not the only game in town.
yeah, we'll be working on grapheneOS tv boxes in a years time.
I will 100% jump over to it if that does turn into a thing
HDMI + A presentation mouse and bluetooth keyboard on an old Pixel?
OMG me too!
Oh cool, I'll have to checkout those other tools!
Well, I was mostly piggy backing on your comment / signal boosting what you were saying for the cheap seats. I figure anyone who's hacking their TV via ADB commands doesn't need my help with work arounds.
But heck, if and of those are of use, please enjoy.
I'm tempted to mentioned a good "yarr me harties" source here too, but I don't want to teach anyone how to suck lemons.