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[-] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago

Every day, the reasons to either switch to dumb devices or open-source software keep piling up.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago

Then you have the mainstream user that can't be bothered to even install an adblocker. It is mind-boggling.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

You underestimate how scary it is for them to do anything out or the ordinary. Most "normal people" and I include people like project managers in a tech company, really think things will blow up if they mess with any settings.

This is why the default browser setting is so valuable.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

The mainstream user doesn't care enough to install an adblocker

[-] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Amazon is adding full-screen video ads that will play when you start your Fire TV unless you quickly perform an action on it. […] “Our focus is on delivering an immersive experience so customers can enjoy their favorite TV shows and movies, as well as browse and discover more content they’ll want to watch. We’re always working to make the Fire TV experience better for customers and have updated one of the prominent placements in the UI to play a short content preview if no other action is taken by a customer upon turning on their Fire TV.” Amazon said in a statement to Cord Cutters News.

Sure, that’s definitely a feature for customers. Especially the fact that you can only click it away in the first few seconds. I also love to have my ads be immersive. Biggest pile of bullshit I’ve heard this week.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Sure, that’s definitely a feature for customers.

You misunderstand: the advertisers are the customers.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A lot of the fire tvs can be rooted! There’s a great community over at XDA with all the needed resources.

I have two 4k sticks (1st gen) rooted and debloated running Leanback launcher. When you cut out all the junk, it really is (or was?) the best 4k streaming device under $50.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I‘ll definitely have to try if that’s possible with my Grundig TV that has a FireTV built in.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Coolcool! At the very least, you should be able to block Amazon from pushing updates.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

People keep buying big tech products and subscriptions then are shocked when they fuck you over? shocked picachu

[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, for a lot of non-tech savy people, the options often boil down to this kind of shit or being part of a botnet within a few days.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago

Yeah, what is the alternative? “Oh you can assemble your own raspberry pi kit, after you partition an SD card and install a special version of Linux you can then tunnel it to a vpn and BitTorrent all your movies and shows using the -arr software suite and then use a package manager to install Kodi or jellyfin to watch, and maybe if you put docker on it you can use HomeAssistant to dim your lights when watching”

Meanwhile their iPhone autocorrects half those words to something else.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

There are fewer and fewer options every day that aren't by big brands.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

It’s a real shame. Monopolies in any industry/product inevitably lead to fucking over consumers… time we broke em up I think

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[-] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

I may be an anomalous IT professional, but despite being a coder and generally a ginormous nerd, I've never really understood why people buy "smart" devices. This isn't a criticism; I honestly just don't understand why they're popular. The amount of convenience they provide really doesn't seem like it's worth it at all, to me

[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Being poor makes you make different decisions than when you can afford any option you like. We wanted a big 4k TV and it was the best option for our wallets.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I have a few roku boxes and a Google TV Chromecast. The Samsung TV I bought is a smart TV and it's slow as crap. I ended up putting a Roku box on it and use it that way. Now when the TV starts I have to hurry up and hit a button on the Roku remote to wake it up otherwise the TV starts auto playing a random channel from their new TV app that you can't seem to uninstall. I'm really just waiting for the tv to die so I can go find a new TV that isn't smart. The problem is those seem to be more expensive now.

I like the Google TV Chromecast because it aggregates all the services you sign into and can start showing me things I like and may want to watch next, right from the home screen.

But you are right, the tv itself being the smart device just isn't worth it for me. I'd rather have a dongle or box I can swap out if it starts going south. I have a Plex server and I need something in order to play that on the TV unless I just start getting a casting device and just cast from a phone.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Can't you just disconnect the TV from the internet to prevent it playing channels?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Well what do you use to watch TV?

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I feel like there’s a misunderstanding here that keeps coming up. The Amazon fire TV isn’t a smart TV, it’s a streaming device (usb stick style) that you plug into your TV. And it’s quite understandable why people want to stream videos on their TV, that’s how they access Netflix, Disney plus etc.

Edit: it’s apparently a TV as well.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, the Fire TV Stick is a streaming stick. The Fire TV is a TV with the stick built in and it makes you go through the Amazon Fire UI to do normal TV things as well.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

They have TV's as well as the Fire Sticks, and people buy them because they are cheap. I have Roku TV, but it never gets on the network, I just use Apple TV.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I guess those devices make more sense if you don't have a laptop. I only have a laptop (well, that and a Steam Deck which counts as mobile Linux I guess) so I just plonk it into the HDMI port

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Lemmy community is probably not the most representative group of people when it comes to consumer electronics. I doubt that most people plug their laptops into their TV every time they want to watch something. But fair enough.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

for tv stuff "smart" is the only thing that exists now

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can btw "simply" opt out from this in the settings (look for "featured content" and disable it).

Yes it should be opt-in, but it's not that hard to keep the fire tv (stick) being a good device for the price paid.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

You can ...

For now. Until everyone gets used to it and suddenly the option to opt out disappears.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I can still throw away my fire tv stick then. At the moment it still does the job I bought it for and I won't produce unnecessary garbage for something that might happen in the future.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

"Smart" devices are not smart for us, they are devices the manufacturers get to control

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

please tell me i can do something with ADB against that. my boyfriend is already annoyed at those, and i want to do something against it. no root sadly.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I wish, I have not found a way yet and I work in cybersecurity. Though I have to admit I didn't give it my best at all.

One thing I would like to try soon is running FLauncher. Though I kinda doubt they will allow another launcher to be set as default. Their site offers some workarounds but "Fire OS" is a lot more locked down. For example using the normal ADB command to turn the screen upside down (needed for my projector) is not working either.

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[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I have blokada on mine I had whitelisted all the amazon servers it connects with but when I read this I removed them all to stop it updating hopefully.

Will probably work until I get round to trying the xda fix.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Does that help? For me it doesn't stop anything. It looks like it uses DoH or something to bypass filtering.

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[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Firesticks use a hardcoded backup DNS which can't be changed/disabled without root access. This renders DNS level blocking useless because they'll just use their backup DNS if your DNS resolves to 127.0.0.1/0.0.0.0

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I've noticed they have added this trick to my FireCube. When it's first powered on it looks for the remote and often doesn't find it. Then as you press a button on it, it clicks the first show or movie being advertised.

I didn't pay top dollar for a cube to deal with this crap.

I'm finding I'm using my laptop more than my cube these days. I'm also cancelling services as I go. Arrrhh time to go!

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

I picked up a 4K Fire Stick a few years back, connected it to my Wi-Fi and then watched the network activity from the router with little surprise. Tech companies sell ad-delivery devices with a nominal end-user benefit.

Once NUCs became powerful and affordable enough to use as a dedicated HTPC/server, anything with a proprietary OS made no sense, even taking portability into consideration. This is just the latest example of why.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

There are lots of low cost single board computers that can run Kodi and Jellyfin which are open source and don't have any ads.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Currently have everything Amazon blocked so it doesn’t update, and everything on the default Home screen is blank or missing except the home icon and settings menu.

Installed “Wolf Launcher” and “Launcher Manager” to set it to the Home button, and “Launch on Boot” to automatically start Wolf Launcher after the default home screen is done loading nothing.

Everything behind a pihole to block Amazon and Twitch ads, plus SmartTubeNext for youtube with adblock and sponsorblock.

https://reddthat.com/comment/5220903

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