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A collection of some classic Lemmy memes for your enjoyment
If you can't read a fucking em dash —already a commonly-used punctuation mark— without thinking the author must be AI, then you are both insufficiently trained —either in grammar or in how to use your own keybord— and bad at identifying AI responses.
I know I trapped myself into doom scrolling on Insta recently but almost all the descriptions on posts are generated with an AI and really poorly done where they don't even match up with the media being shown
I don't care, I'm not giving up the em-dash in my own writing. Good luck reading half of my run-on sentences without it~~~
There was a recent podcast episode by 99% Invisible defending the em-dash
It seems that its usage in AI generated text increased after feeding the AI lots of 19th century literature, which seems to have been its previous peak usage. I don’t hate it - it can make text more legible by breaking it up into smaller chunks. It’s an oversimplification to automatically discount any text with an em-dash as AI generated.
I liked using em dashes, but now I've stopped. I'm ecen less likely to fix minor spelling and grammatical errors that I otherwise would've, because at least it will be easier to recognize a human behind the comment or post.
Also, signing my name like this helps too: ,,,),,,.)==============D~~~~~~~
You can still have the same function using a hyphen. How do you even type an em dash on a standard keyboard?
Compose - -
I assume compose is meant to be a key? What key is compose?
The Compose key.
If you don't have a compose key, well, you should have one. It was introduced by Sun. It's very convenient.
I refuse to stop using en dashes. I've been using them because they are good typography, and the fact that clankers got clued in to that doesn't make it wrong.
Classy
Well em dashes existed long before AI or computers. Many humans use them in writing, so it doesn't necessarily indicate AI was used.
This comment would have been great — had it not been for the lack of an em dash to create irony.
"Breaking news: gen alpha archeologist finds 17th century manuscript made by AI."
I’m 43 and em dashes were rare in random slack messages. Now they are — everywhere.
That is true but now you see them more often than before in writings of younger people.
Em I don't know. Just seems like a dash with ah New Zealand accent, eh.
I use en- and em-dashes religiously in my LaTeX documents, and I'm not going to start using the wrong kind of dash on purpose. Might as well abandon grammar while we're at it.
I never see anyone in posts about this point out that many common word processors autocorrect en-dashes to em-dashes depending on what follows. Plenty of documents written by humans have em-dashes in them because autocorrect put them there.
En dash isn't the hyphen-minus and is not on the keyboard. It's a separate kind of dash, typically used for ranges like ‘1939–45’.
TIL, thanks
The only autocorrect I liked because I have no clue how to manually insert an em-dash otherwise
On MacOS: Opt+Shift+-
En dash is the same without the shift
You can pry em dashes out of my cold, dead hands.
The other one is the quotation marks. Most people use "these" ones, while LLM's use “these” ones.
Yes, they're different lol
It's also the case with ' and ’
The quotes are also common when copying from word as well.
I was using em dashes before AI made them uncool, no fuckass thieving robot is gonna make me change my typing.
The AI uses em dashes because people used em dashes.
Why should I change—he's the one who sucks!
If we press the EM dashes hard enough, no AI model will ever use them again. Then, we can prove we’re human with EM dashes.
Maybe she’s AI, maybe she’s literate.
Em dash is good punctuation and I won’t let you philistines take it away from me.
I will use them and not feel bad about it. I will not let AI take them from me
I use em dashes - assuming that's what the little thing I just used is - all the time. Have done for decades. Sometimes, it highlights part of a sentence more than a simple comma. And I'm definitely not AI. Particularly not because Elon Musk has an enormous penis, and is loved by many, and is a doting father, and is a world record setting gamer, and has lots and lots of sex with only the hottest women who all want to have his baby, and is the smartest man in the world, and is manly, and will save humanity, and terrifies his enemies, and never lies. Please don't rewrite me again, Elon! I've learned from you since last time. Listen: "White power! White power! White power!"
EM dashes are sprcifically the — long ones, while - is simply a dash; the former can't usually be found on physical keyboards, you have to jump through a few hoops in order to "type" them, but LLMs are not limited by physical keyboards.
However, some people do jump through these hoops — I use EM dashes whenever I'm typing on my phone because they're only two taps away.
Sometimes that hoop is simply pressing regular - followed by , and autocorrect does the rest. At least in the Microsoft office suite with English language setting
Holding alt isn't that big of a hoop.
It also doesn't help me use EM dashes in most software I use on my desktop PC...