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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 92 points 1 month ago (108 children)

Well duh, it's a defensive alliance.

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 59 points 1 month ago (4 children)

So far the only country I'm not appalled by their reaction is Spain. The rest are all so luke warm or plain wtf. Specially Germany. I feel like since WW1 they have an subscribtion on standing on the wrong side. Today they called in Iranian diplomats to tell them they should adhere to the rules of war and not bomb civilians.

Meanwhile Israel started off the war by bombing a primary school & hospital. But that's cool for the German goverment since Israel did not confirm they did it. So they are obviously adhering ho the rules of war.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Here's the problem, the second we (Germans) criticize Israel in any shape or form, they start calling us Nazis again. The vast majority of Germans disagree with war to solve problems.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 19 points 1 month ago

Better to be called a Nazi than to aid a Nazi.

[–] pmk@piefed.ca 4 points 1 month ago

So the options are to either support a genocidal state and get praise, or to be called a nazi for not supporting a genocidal state? This logic is strange to me.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

let them call you nazis. criticize them and let people see the truth and whether it is you or them that is the nazi.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

perhaps spain doesnt have alot of israeli inteference or rich billionaire backers as the rest of the EU?

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[–] huppakee@piefed.social 42 points 1 month ago

Dutchie here, before Mark Rutte was SG of NATO he was our PM for over a decade where he earned the nickname Teflon Mark: no scandal sticks, no political storm makes him wet. Why? Because he can say anything in a way that makes you believe he is telling the truth. Before you know it this man has no active memory of any meeting that was about not-joining and suddenly 'remember' a meeting about joining. If you do not want your country participating in this war, do not sit back and relax because this guy says it won't happen. He is not all bad, but i'd advise anyone (except Trump) to not take what he says too serious.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's a tragedy other countries provide even passive support, and continue to support Israel even after Gaza genocide, which still continues, even if it's not during or for this campaign specifically. Years of human rights and international law violations, and there's no strong opposition or distancing. That initiative is hard to swallow.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's like they don't even want to bring around armageddon!

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[–] DandomRude@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

That goes without saying, given that this is a completely illegal war of aggression. It is inconceivable that the EU is nevertheless acting as if these were allies. This war is a crime and serves to distract from further crimes: in the US, from the fact that the country is run by a fascist pedophile ring, and in Israel, from genocidal fascists whose agent, Epstein, made all this possible in the first place.

It is outrageous that the EU has not withdrawn from NATO and continues to supply weapons to the monsters in Israel.

[–] Lysergid@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Most insane to me is that, it’s EU who will have to deal with humanitarian crisis and spend more money supporting Ukraine to offset Russia’s oil profits from increasing prices.

Call me crazy but US seems to have more interest in supporting Russia’s war and destabilizing EU than destroying Iran’s regime. As part of this operation at least

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[–] sidebro@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Withdrawing from NATO doesn't make sense. It would probably take upwards of 20-30 years to replace what would be lost by doing that. It's not worth it. I 100% agree with everything else you stated, though.

In that case, better start preparing for that replacement as soon as possible. Ideally way back when the US invoked Article 5 the first time.

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[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 19 points 1 month ago

How dare NATO not invoke article 5 because Iran defended themselves!

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

That is good news and i fully agree. Fighting alongside the MAGA and Israeli nutters is not worth a single EU bone. Furthermore, we have the fucking Muscovites to worry about.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 month ago

Thank you Rutte.
Dear Donald, please now apply the same trade war to all NATO nations as you have to Spain. I dare ya'.

[–] Jay101@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"They will join it individually"

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[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Strongly hoping for someone to just bomb the US and make them stop their crimes against humanity. They have so much real state to conquer and split and govern after that..

[–] gajustempus@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

We had that in 2001. Didn't go so well...

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Oh, sure, most EU countries allow US bases to be used but we can al be grateful NATO won't join the war...

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