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A federal judge in West Virginia has given the Trump administration an ultimatum: Stop illegally detaining immigrants or face contempt rulings and "monetary sanctions against responsible officials."

"Today, the Government continues to wrongfully detain those petitioners without due process," [Goodwin's] opinion reads. "Even now the Government incredulously asserts that the federal district courts do not have jurisdiction, that petitioners cannot raise due process violations, and that the Government has authority to mandatorily and indefinitely detain noncitizens in the local jail. The Government is wrong. Judges in this district have said that over and over and over again. I have said it myself."

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 hour ago

quit warning and do!

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 25 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Courts mean nothing if no one enforces their rulings.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Judge: "Police, I demand you arrest these police!"

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Oooh! The strongly worded letters are getting even more strongly worded!

[–] 69420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Is this better or worse than a "slam"? What about a "blast"?

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

“Politician Ignites Explosive Firestorm With Routine Decision as Critics Slam Controversial Move, Outrage Erupts Nationwide, Panic Surges Over Alleged Hidden Agenda and Demands for Answers Detonate Across a Shocked Public”

Translation:

“A politician carried out a routine administrative action. A small number of opponents criticized the choice publicly. Some people posted complaints online. Nothing about the situation indicates any misconduct.”

[–] veniasilente@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 hours ago

Wow, a fine! That'll surely teach Trump that fascism isn't welcome! Perhaps attach a strongly worded letter to the payment order, too!

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 109 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

'Monetary Sanctions'

Fuck you; ISSUE ARREST WARRANTS YOU SPINELESS CUNT

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

You can only issue arrest warrants for criminal contempt, meaning Trump can just issue a pardon. Civil contempt isn't subject to the pardon power.

And the people.to issue the contempt judgements against aren't Trump and team. They need to issue them to the foot soldiers. It sounds weak, but it's effective.

I work in in the development department of a very small municipality that's an enclave for the mega-rich. Literally 100% of households are at least multi-millionaires. The average new house being built is about 8 million dollars. That means that when we Rey tonfine homeowners for illegal shit, it means nothing because they can just write a check if they don't want to comply.

So we've recently changed tactics on code enforcement. We start by telling them to stop and issuing a citation to the owners, but when they don't we fine the individual workers on site and if things aren'tcleaned up we start to cite them each $500/day until they start to comply. It didn't take long until the rich assholes couldn't find workers willing to do their bidding.

[–] lolo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

So instead of something like proportional fines related to the value of the properties, you’ve fucked over the working class for violations that they didn’t commit, didn’t know about, and likely had no control over? Do you have any idea what an unexpected $500, $1000, or $1500 bill can do to a family that is struggling? Are these fines even legal? What types of violations by the rich are the working class being made to pay for? Do you also send warnings to the workers before taking their money, or do the owners get a warning and you just hope they tell everyone else? I find this little story completely abhorrent and I hope some of these workers sue your organization and get their money back.

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 36 minutes ago

This happens all the time even on the federal level. My company just ate a several thousand $ fine because we were working on a site where the plumbers didn't mark an open pit while plumbing a mop sink. We were the HVAC contractors working on the roof. We were not even working in the same area and had no way of knowing what the plumbers were doing. OSHA didn't care. Every company who was working the job got hit with a fine for continuing work on an unsafe site. It's complete bullshit but, at the same time, everyone onsite is going to think twice about ever working with those plumbers again. So even though it's complete and utter shit, it is probably the most effective tool at their disposal with current laws.

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Fines are more civil and not subject to pardon.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

State criminal charges are not subject to federal pardons either.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't there more to it than that because these are federal agents? Asking.

[–] nwtreeoctopus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Depending on circumstances, federal agents can be charged with state crimes.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Who gives a fuck about showing the Nazis civility? Punch them in the dicks and take their shit

[–] baronvonj@piefed.social 32 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I think they meant civil versus criminal rather than nice vs mean.

[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago

I think you’re both right.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Fair enough. That isn't how I interpreted the comment but you could be right

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago
[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

But, we're paying them

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Quick question unrelated to the article. Is that white thing on trumps glass an anti dribble sippy cup type lid?

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

Those are little paper toppers to keep things from falling in the glass. We can pretend it's a sippy topper for kicks though.

[–] KumaLumaJuma@feddit.uk 3 points 3 hours ago

As much as that would be hilarious… no when water is set out ahead of time they’ll put a little paper cover on the tops of the glasses to get dust or whatever from getting in there. Now as to why he clearly hadn’t drunk from that glass… 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[–] sh00g@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm giving "explicit notice" for the entire judicial system to EAT MY ASS. Fucking do something already. This continual warning bullshit has worked wonders so far. FUCK.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

For real. The order itself is the fucking warning.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 63 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 16 points 7 hours ago

Even so, it won't be enforced.

[–] Zagam@piefed.social 11 points 5 hours ago

Watch out guys. i think they mean it this time. For really really real. Not kidding around any more.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

The Trump admin are shaking in their boots at this FINAL NOTICE. They better watch their step or they might be getting a FINAL FINAL NOTICE next!

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Final-final-for-real-FINAL-USETHISONE-5.docx

[–] thoughtfuldragon@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Ghostie@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago

The DHS will use any notices of contempt and sanctions as toilet paper as soon as they are done passing around the constitution.

[–] MOARbid1@piefed.social 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

At this point, I feel like the only thing they will listen to is on the spot executions.

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

That's a testable hypothesis!

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Nobody copies the French and the French copy nobody.

We COULD if we wanted to.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Oh no, he's going to get a rich people ticket guys. He's in real trouble now /s

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

It's still extremely unusual for district judges to title a section of their order "Final Notice".