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The middle schooler had been begging to opt out, citing headaches from the Chromebook screen and a dislike of the AI chatbot recently integrated into it.

Parents across the country are taking steps to stop their children from using school-issued Chromebooks and iPads, citing concerns about distractions and access to inappropriate content that they fear hampers their kids’ education.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 hours ago

It's happening.

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 14 points 7 hours ago

Public education either needs to be reclaimed and rebuilt from all the corrupting influences that have torn it apart. I'm not worried about the children of intelligent people, who can fall back on enrichment provided by their families, but so many kids are, at best, getting left behind or worse, being indoctrinated with all sorts of corpo-fascism now inherent in the system. Most kids seem to be coping pretty alright, so far, but I worry about the trends, and the future.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

We all need to do this. I'd be raising hell if my kid were in school these days. He graduated in 2016, just before things got REALLY bad.

I read /r/teachers, and I'm shocked that kids are being passed up through the grades who can barely read, and can't focus on anything at all for more than one minute. They're allowed to eat in class? Look at their phones? They get up and wander around, and even leave the classroom? WTF?

"Sit down! Shut up! Put the damn phone away and pay attention!", is what I'd say right before I was fired from being a teacher, I suppose.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 38 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

They're putting AI in children's school laptops? Not only teaching them to think less, but letting a corporation directly influence them?

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 11 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

They are Chromebooks. A gigantic corporation is already influencing them?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 5 hours ago

There's a big difference between "hey kids, use this machine, it has Internet access and Brand products" and "hey kids, ask me anything you'd like, and I'll give you the Brand approved answer."

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Kids have two options. Out dated propaganda, or propaganda that might hallucinate a few key details.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

Well obviously the propaganda I grew up with is better and clearly didn't affect me at all..

[–] Technoworcester@feddit.uk 33 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

said she was only allowed under state law to opt the children out of standardized testing and sexual health lessons,

WTF? Why the fuck can someone opt kids out of EITHER of these things?

[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 minutes ago

There's an argument to be made against standardized testing. Very neurodivergent individuals, for example, can suffer a lot under bad standardized tests. Idk, though, it would be better to just make a better system, rather than letting people opt out. As long as that's not happening, there is, however, an argument against standardized tests.

[–] SayJess@piefed.blahaj.zone 25 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Christians. They deserve special treatment, because they are all special.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 27 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Well the latter is pretty easy, it's easier to sexually molest children that haven't gone through sex education.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

I think this heavily depends. Sex education for a lot of places, especially in rural areas, tends to be fucked up backwards and downright harmful. Last I checked several states have abstinence only sex ed and do things like show kids a bunch of pictures of STDs and leverage scare tatics to deter them from having sex. I think opting out of that shit show and having a candid conversation with your kid about sex is probably the ethical thing to do in those places.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 78 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I've opted out of the school Chromebooks for my kids because they have computers running real GNU at home. We should all be outraged that schools are pushing a locked-down surveillance/content consumption-only platform, as opposed to something like a Raspberry Pi that actually empowers kids to have real computer literacy.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

real GNU at home

GNU/Hurd... or GNU/Linux?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago

Who cares, as long as it's copyleft?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

Sounds great but I can guarantee no IT team wants to deal with this

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This - like most problems we've created in the US - comes down to money. Google will often donate/grant Chromebooks to schools in order to create future ~~addicts~~ customers. It would cost schools a lot more to do what's right (or at least better) for their students, so they don't do that thing.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago

yup, it's the same playbook Apple had in the 80's and 90's. Get them into schools and get everyone used to their ecosystem so they would buy their products after graduating. Bill Gates did the same thing in the 90's to outfit computer labs in schools with a bunch of Dell computers.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

I'm curious to know if anyone here has ever approached the school IT department to ask what steps they take to mitigate or eliminate surveillance and tracking in these devices. I know it's inherent in Google products to begin with, but do they even try? Or pretend to try? Or admit they don't care?

[–] Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml 1 points 28 minutes ago

I did! The IT department literally laughed at me. I also tried to get them to let teachers install uBlock Origin, because they apparently will watch educational YouTube videos in class sometimes, and then get random ads for everyone to suffer under. But uBlock Origin doesn't have their support... Ironically, they only support Windows computers and iPhones on the school network. Android, MacOS, and Linux are all officially unsupported.

The school IT department is often the math teacher’s side hustle or a badly paid gamer dude with Microsoft certifications.

Surveillance and tracking is the least of their concerns.

[–] Kupi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

I’ve asked about this a few times and I was told by our administration that every company we work with signs a data privacy agreement stating that they will not sell or compromise any sensitive student data. But I was also told that our administration team doesn’t usually follow up with these companies to make sure they’re following the rules. Therefore it’s an unfortunate situation of, “above my pay grade.” Also, when opting out of a Chromebook, you’re only making sure your kid doesn’t go home with one. Most, if not all, teachers don’t shy away from Google Classroom…

[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The IT Department knows about all the problems it's the administration that does not care and won't let the IT people do anything. Also, you don't want to know how bad the procurement process is with most school systems.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Good point. I've never worked in education. I neglected the fact that they're just fulfilling orders. I believe you it's probably a shitshow with privacy and preemptive security procedures almost non-existent.

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

It's sorta the opposite. It's not that privacy and security are afterthoughts, it's that oversight and monitoring are baked into everything. They lean into lockdown browsers, mandatory on cameras for assessments, and a whole bunch of anti-cheat tech. Privacy and security are on the mind, they just want none of it.

Worse than that though, it's a carefully crafted economy where vendors knowingly supply incomplete and broken systems so that they have a continuous need to also sell professional services, training, and technical support. It's just like textbooks and curricula; crooked AF because they know that nobody is paying attention, and the entire system operates with an expectation of profound inefficiency.

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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 124 points 18 hours ago (17 children)

My first year teaching I was encouraged to do everything on the chromebooks, because the district wanted to save on printing costs.

If you have 100+ students, and are limited to 500 pages/month (I could print 500 more, but had to purchase my own paper…), you have to use the laptops.

Also, when parents and students increasingly treat attendance as a suggestion, keeping up with paper assignments is hellish. There were days I showed up with 1/3 or more of my class missing - with online class work, I at least could say “the work is available online.”

The technology is a problem, but it’s a problem that’s arisen because class sizes are out of control and admin has zero idea what is going on in the classroom. It’s a bandage that’s been left on so long the skin is starting to get infected around it.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 67 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

What the fuck is it with schools being stingy with printed paper. At scale its less than a cent a sheet

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

So many donations and funds for schools are earmarked, you can only spend them in specific ways. If you spend them in ways that don't align with the earmark, it's incredibly easy for the donors or the state to claw them back. So that $40mil your local suburban school district spent on a new football stadium? That was likely earmarked SPECIFICALLY for football, they can't really just swish the money to better textbooks, or whatever. Same with tech funding - you get $250k to upgrade your school district with Chromebooks or whatever, you MUST buy within what the funding packet tells you you can buy, and you can't really do anything else with it.

That doesn't even get into the cartelization of textbooks and school software. There's so few real options that it's incredibly easy for these companies to collude without really looking like it's collusion.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 59 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

They also have to be paying for the software that tracks how many prints you use. It’s fucking stupid, and it’s just one of a million little ways that they make sure to punish anyone stupid enough to teach.

I ended up buying my own printer. Printing alone got me to the maximum $300 of classroom expenses I was allowed to write off on taxes.

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

Teachers where I live are constantly asking for donations of basic school supplies, snacks, tissues, and cleaning supplies for classrooms. It is incredibly disheartening.

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 38 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

From the article:

She also started a parent group with 75 members that’s asking the district to allow students to keep Chromebooks at school rather than take them home.

Seems like such a good idea to leave that at the school. I had a relative who was a teacher, she rarely ever assigned homework. She always said it was her job to teach them in those 6 hours, and the rest of the day was theirs. She did have a weekend workshop for kids that needed tutoring, and after class hours, but in general, leave school at school and be a kid.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I wish my teachers had that attitude. I got sent home with hours of homework almost every day. I particularly remember my raging bitch of an 8th grade math teacher who would assign 100s of problems a night and give you zero points if you didn't do all of them. My mom even backed me up on arguing about that shit. If I couldn't get it done during my study period and lunch hour I didn't do it. I had better things to do with my time after school.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

"it's only an hour of homework!"

-Each of your 6 teachers

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 5 points 12 hours ago

Then they act like I have a learning disability even though I'm acing all the tests and it's literally just doing the bare minimum of homework that's fucking my grades up.

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I think we all know what is wrong today...

Child trying to zoom in into a picture in a magazine / book.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

You got that boomer energy.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

This would have made our lives so much better.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 39 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (11 children)

That's the one good side effect of AI, it makes people want to move away from technology where it's not really necessary

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