The Democrats didn't cave for once. Good job.
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Hey there's still Friday. Don't ever let defeat escape from the jaws of victory
Yet. Give Schmuck & Jeffries more credit. They'll figure out how to fuck this up, they always do. It's their specialty.
True. They are experts at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
They'll still cave. Also, ICE already has $75B in hand to work with. They won't be impacted by the shutdown at all. Unlike the TSA, ICE will still get paid for working.
TSA sucks too, though. Security theater that strips travelers of 4th amendment protection against unlawful search and seizure. Tons of shit that isn't supposed to get past the TSA does and people are chosen at random for enhanced screening where they have to open their bags for no good reason. Also those X-ray machines were never proven to be necessary or safe.
Nah for real fuck the TSA too, they were an overreach during the Bush era that never got put to bed. It was a stealth jobs program to help cover Bush's shitty economy.
So for real I don't feel bad that privacy invading TSA agents aren't getting paid for their 4th amendment breaking jobs.
Having visited the US from outside, it's not even good security theatre. They seemed the least competent airport security I've dealt with. That list includes Kazakhstan and several middle eastern countries.
I mean... That's why it's called theater, because its theatrics to make you feel secure but doesn't actually secure anything at all.
So what those other countries are doing is simply called "security."
Most of what they do is security theatre as well. They are just a lot more competent and efficient about it.
Had a friend who worked customs. 95% of their actual work was behind the scenes. Most of the public facing stuff was book keeping and window dressing.
Haven’t they failed 70-95% of their handgun check tests historically? Yup, security theater.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2008/oct/23/bruce-schneier-airport-security
"Submit or don't fly" is now "Submit or die".
The constitution is long gone.
Don’t worry, they will. As is tradition.
“You see that huge wall over there, Schumer? That’s the wall of victory. You only need to touch it and everything is over. We win.”
Schumer: “where are its jaws? I hear that’s where it keeps the goods.”
I really hope something good actually happens, but we have had good reason in recent history to not give them credit until they actually accomplish something. The last... performance they gave ended in caving without any concessions.
Part of what made me so angry the last time is that now, even if they are serious this time, there's no reason for the red hats to take them seriously.
Give it a minute.
up until the distraction is enabled in media then they go ahead with it.
They can tap their big beautiful bill.
The shutdown is likely to have minimal impact on pay for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers and funding for their enforcement operations, since both agencies received an infusion of cash from Congress last summer. During the government shutdown last fall, officers and agents conducting arrests continued to do so and also continued to be paid.
According to DHS' contingency plan, last updated in September, 22,862 agency workers not in ICE or CBP could be furloughed, meaning they would not work and would not be paid until the end of the shutdown. Other workers may be instructed to continue working but without pay, and there could be pauses to other programs.
I was wondering what happens to people that are currently being held, during a shutdown. The conditions are beyond inhumane while they're staffid, and then a shutdown happens and they get neglected even more.
It doesn't sound like they shutdown will affect ICE/CPB's ongoing assault, probably just going to make them war more aggressive toward innocent people during the shutdown.
Clearly the answer is to give even more funding to the people creating inhumane conditions and to ask them nicely to stop /s
Bureau of Prisons never shuts down. Considered essential. They just eat from the food pantries and get rent extensions. Next month is going to be hard. You know those "little libraries"? My wife's school has a "little food pantry" a few of the faculty and I have been keeping stocked. it is going to be empty in a week.
As you'd expect, this will have no impact on ICE, CBP, or the ongoing round-up of brown people.
'shut down' notreally
Nice.