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I know this is meant to be a casual conversation and this topic can get deep fast, but I’d love to hear everyone's elevator pitch for their religion or lack thereof. peace and love<3

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not religious because I never believed. From the first time when I was very young and asked at church "where was god?" and they couldn't answer. I called bullshit on it and I didn't even know what bullshit was.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

also don't know what religion is. try and define it. i dare you.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Why would I?

Edit: I don't have to though since it has already been explained.

"A religion is large popular cult. A cult is a small unpopular religion."

Its perfect explanation for a otherwise pointless topic.

[–] Elaine@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Nope, I have difficulty taking anyone seriously when they think they have unicorns in their shoes.

[–] gajahmada@awful.systems 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, cuz retrovirus in chimps. Also, whales.

[–] Dr_Vindaloo@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago

lots of people are theistic evolutionists though.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

I'm somewhat religious as I believe some feelings are holy/otherworldly/peaceful but it's not bible religion and there is only one of me, not a group.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 hours ago

Whether they recognize it or not, all humans have religious needs. The need to feel like a good person (whether you are or not) is a religious need. The need to have hope for the future (whether hope is reasonable or not) is a religious need. The need for something bigger than yourself to look up to (regardless of how capable you are) is a religious need. People don't always meet these needs through what would be recognized as an organized religion, but they still usually meet these needs through religious means.

[–] sparkles@piefed.zip 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

No.

When I was a kid my mom send my sister and I to bible camp. I spent time with friends and I didn’t shun the one kid with a developmental disability like everyone else. Not for any particular reason I just got along with him as well as my other friends.

Those motherfuckers gave me a TROPHY.

Looking back it was the beginning of the end of my religious journey. Now I just make the best of it with my fellow normies.

[–] CosmicGoat@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago
[–] slemptastrophe@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was raised in a devout Christian family. It never felt right to me. It just never felt capital "T" True.

After expressing that feeling at an early age, I was scolded and made to feel afraid of expressing any dissenting opinions about it. I guess I kind of internalized that fear, more as a coping mechanism than an actual belief.

When I got older, I rejected it outright, and went searching for the TRUE religion. I didn't find it, lol, and I began identifying as an atheist. Albeit, an atheist with a lot of knowledge of various religious and spiritual traditions.

Then, I read the Principia Discordia. That book changed my perspective on everything. It led me to Leary/Wilson's concept of reality tunnels. A person who only views things from one perspective (be that perspective religious, philosophical, scientific, or whatever) has a very narrow reality tunnel; a person who views things from multiple perspectives has a wider one. Our perception of reality is based on the perspectives we bring to it.

I think that most religions are structurally unsound as a whole. They fall apart under their own weight. But some of the discrete pieces of those religions can stand on their own, and when I find those pieces, I add them to my reality tunnel.

I'm drawn to non-dual forms of spirituality, because that's what feels true to me. I feel that way because of experiences I've had, or things that just feel true to me.

I don't expect anyone to feel the same way I do about it though. We don't have the same perspective, because we haven't had the same experiences. Expecting others to see things the way I do would be unfair, and wildly irrational.

[–] CosmicGoat@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's funny you say this. After I became an apostate and left my faith, as I learned and grew behind that... I came to the conclusion that I knew what true salvation was now. Or at least perhaps one kind of salvation.

Salvation lies within ones ability to embrace different perspectives.

So much pain, struggling, and strife can be resolved by a change in perspective.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not religious.

Because I was raised well enough to successfully avoid indoctrination into a cult.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Like siempastrophe, I was not blessed with belief. I remember finding out that the adults at the church really believed the stories they were telling were true, when I was 5 or so.

I wouldn't say I am Atheist, with a capital A, either. No way to disprove, and the simple fact of physical existence is so mind-blowing, the universe existing at all, consciousness, time. But no I can't believe enough to believe in any particular religion as true.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Nope.. I dont buy into modern mythology.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. I convinced myself I was until I was 16 or 17. It wasn't compatible with my worldview and it was completely unscientific.

[–] whitemonster@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

What about your worldview was incompatible with religion? Secondarily, do you think there is any religion that might be compatible with your worldview?

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There has been written a lot of fantasy the last 3000 years, but I prefer the more recent ones.

[–] CosmicGoat@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Honestly, the fiction that exists today has the capability of teaching incredibly valuable lessons with thousands of years of progress incorporated into it. I often find myself feeling all the warm and fuzzies when a fiction book of today touches important ethics amidst a simple sci-fi or fantasy story. 💜

There are certainly some good things to learn from ancient morality, like the Golden Rule, but it really cannot beat modern ethics. Many philosophies of long ago are still potent today, but many more (should) have become deprecated with the advent of modern science and ethics.

This is kind of why I've been gravitating towards Humanism. It's much of the goodness of religion, but without God.

[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

No, but I try hard not to be an asshole about it. People can believe what they want as long as it isn't directly hurting someone.

Personally I find religious studies fascinating simply because of the influence it has had on culture both locally and worldwide.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not, but I kind of miss the community connection and discussion of life wisdom that religion serves.

I've thought about trying to go to a universalist Unitarian service sometime, since I've heard they dont really care if you are a more secular person, they're not a Christian church, and welcome folks of all sorts of world views

[–] whitemonster@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What type of community were you a part of before you chose to walk away?

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Oh eons ago I was raised nondenominationally christian. My missing those things is less a reflection of having had them in the past, and more a reflection of having much less access to community in the present. I have a circadian rhythm disorder that limits my ability to get together with other people cause everyone's asleep for the bulk of time I'm awake, so connection to other people is precious to me

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was born in China, I remember very early on, I was taught the concept of 命運 (fate), 投胎 (reincarnation), 上天 (the heavens) 睇住你 (are watching you), and 報應 (karma)... lot of that stuff.

My mom told me that if I "waste food", i'd 畀雷公劈 (get stuck by lightning by the "god of thunder"; or some bullshit like that)

A lot of Chinese drama has those spiritual themes

One time I was like: "so what religion are we?"

Then my mom was like 道教 (Taoism), but I was so confused like I thought it was 佛教 (Buddhism)?

So idk what ever the fuck their "religion" is?

My mom always said "唔可以全信但唔可以唔信" (you can't believe it all, but you also can't no believe any)

And she also told me the story about the tale of man that was "waiting for god to save him" when it was flooding" and said that guy was stupid

I used to believe in Santa, then I found out my uncle was the "Santa", so yea I just stopped believing. I used to believe in ghosts cuz all the Chinese ghost stories in media, but then I stopped believing.

I read a lot of Western Atheism stuff... Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins... so I believed less and less...

I still sort of hang on to the reincarnation thing as a sort of copism, well not the karma stuff, but more as in "matter cannot be created or destroyed" so it must be recycled, that sort of way...

We weren't able to see atoms for a long time, maybe there's a "soul" that we cannot yet measure? (I know atheists are gonna say I'm being silly xD)

Like the "fate" thing is just so bizzare. I wasn't supposed to be born as a second child during One Child Policy, so I feel like "maybe 'god' intervened and saved me?". So bizzare, I wasn't even supposed to exist.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. It's a scam created by humans to control the behavior of other humans. And to steal their $$ with false hopes of a nonexistent "paradise".

I find it mind boggling that people still get indoctrinated into the Cults. It's sad and pathetic.

[–] whitemonster@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you think that religion as a whole is unproductive/useless? Maybe even borderline harmful?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not the OP, but I believe religion, while having some positive aspects, is overall harmful. Lies always are.

Very harmful. Full of BS. Countless millions murdered in the name of religion. Trillions $$ stolen from people's pockets. And more Trillions $$ in slave labor, either true slaves or fools that have volunteered many hours of their time.

Big religion should not be treated any differently than the truly rotten Cults .

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nope. Wasn't raised religious. It's pretty common where I come from.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 day ago

Nah, catholic church was very boring and always seemed like a scam to me as long a I can remember. Also Occam's razor. I'm not an evangelical atheist though: that seems like a waste of time and effort.

[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd like to think I'm a person of free will but... no, I'm not religious mainly because I was raised atheist. China was mostly folk religion (with a good bit of Buddhism) and in modern history it became aggressively atheist so... It's probably quite fascinating for ppl interested in history/religion studies, because I don't know any other country that is over 90% not religious

Obviously with scientific training & stuff I probably would have become an atheist or an agnostic anyways, but it's not because of my education that I became not religious so I can't really pitch it or anything...

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't call weird spiritual stuff "atheist", per se.

Does your family burn those fake heaven money thing? Burn incense? Put a chicken on a huge plate as a "sacrifice", then like hold the fake heaven money in their hand then like pray to spirits or whatever while muttering weird 4 character phrases like 心想事成,快高長大, 學業進步。。。 etc... then throw the fake money into a metal container with burning fire... you know what I'm talking about, right?

Idk wtf they are even doing lmao... so weird, I just never participate since I was a teen because those traditions just felt silly.

That, to me, is religion, even though its not "officially" religious.

I don't think I'm gonna be burning fake heaven money if I have kids... like... nah... kinda weird lol... I don't really believe in the spirits stuff and feels like its adding more pollution for no reason. Maybe I'm just too westernized and don't feel attached to Chinese culture anymore.

My family is from Guangdong btw, maybe your family is different, idk, does your family do those weird rituals?

I feel like a "banana" lmfao... ("asian on the outside, westerner on the inside"), the only attachment I have is that I can still read basic Chinese characters... and speak on a 2nd grade level, that's about it...

Oh btw, my mom is very anti-mental-health care and constantly think my depression is just “鬼纏住你” and tells me to wear some necklace or some dumb shit that "wards off evil" lmfao...

And wasting food will “被雷公劈” lolol.

I threw away food I didn't like (I was a kid okay lol) and I never got struck by the lightning god or whatever so... okay boomers.

[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My family is from Manchuria/Beijing where the communist party has a much stronger grip so... I'm not kidding, a lot of ppl literally practice no religion whatsoever; probably got stamped out by the CCP. I think there might be a rather strong North/South divide in China: the North unfortunately has always been under stricter supervision by the party so...

Like they separate it very clearly. My grandparents' generation have old folk religion but ppl would call them "Mi Xin" so... my dad did burn the fake money things, but only during my grandparents' tomb cleanings or anything to do with the older generation. One of my grandparents is Buddhist, but she does make it quite clear. Otherwise most ppl I know literally have nothing remotely resembling religious in their apartments

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

On a related note: How harshly was the One Child Policy enforced where you're from? Like... did you know anyone or heard of anyone that managed to somehow give birth to a 2nd child... especially in urban areas or when the first child is a male (since rural areas had like an exception if the first child was female).

I'm just curious because I somehow managed to survive... like... I have no idea what the odds are to be a second son born during One Child Policy. Like my maternal grandparents had 3 daughters and they also only have daughters. My mom is the youngest so she had children the latest, so when my mom had not one, but two male children, my maternal grandfather was sooo happy, that's what my mom said.

Like... I have existential crisis all the time...

I don't think I would've been born if the policy was enforced more strictly... like if I was in the north for example...

Do you have any siblings at all?

[–] whitemonster@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, this is so interesting. I feel like the fact that the Communist Party “stamps out” all types of religion is simply a testament to how important it is for humans to share with eachother something higher than our mortal plane. Would you be willing to share more about your experience with your grandparents, and how the culture has now switched to a vast majority practicing no religion at all?

[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not as interesting... three of my grandparents passed away before I started memorizing things so I don't know that much stuff first-hand. But basically... At least where my parents grew up, old folk religions (again... just referred to Mi Xin now) used to be quite common. The last generation (starting 30-40 years ago) just don't really practice them anymore, so my generation are full of complete non-religious people; not even any folk religion. Not sure if it has anything to do with that region being the manufacturing hub of China for a while... so maybe CCP had a much stronger influence there

Beijing is kinda duh, the government is there so... I mean it is the city that destroyed nearly all of its Hu Tongs and historical housing and stuff to build highrises/business districts, how would people imagine Beijing treat its less tangible cultural norms

There was a new religion purge that started sometime 10-15 years ago... but I think it was separate. I just remember there was a Christian family friend whose church was in a bit of a trouble

[–] zloubida@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Yes. I was raised in an agnostic family (I'm French, and in France agnosticism is very dominant) but the idea of the existence of a creator always seemed like a certainty for me. I searched myself for a time, and I'm now very active in my (French equivalent of mainline Protestant) community. I'm not sure it's the “right” religion, I'm not even sure there's such thing as the “right” religion, but it gives me a framework to developp my spirituality while giving me the freedom to question everything. It's a sweet spot that makes me happy.

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I consider myself Buddhist. Im not a particularly good Buddhist and im not an asshole so I generally keep it to myself.

When I was a teenager 20+ years ago I learned as much as I could about it. I wasnt ready to commit to anything so I carried on as an atheist, but I always felt that if anyone got it right, it was Buddha. If youre going to have a spiritual/religious philosophy, being devoted to the elimination of suffering seems like pretty much the best central concept you could go from IMO.

Im particularly drawn to Soto Zen. Theres a straightforwardness to it and zazen that makes sense to me. I really do need to sit zazen more regularly though.

[–] whitemonster@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Would you be willing to share why you feel so drawn to Soto Zen?

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[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago

No, I'm not religious. There's no elevator pitch, because it doesn't need one.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 3 points 1 day ago

No. It’s not really something I think about apart from curiosity on an anthropological level on how it all came about.

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