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The internet has always been my salvation.

As a socially underdeveloped kid, I’d spend my lunch hours in the high school library on those public desktop computers, reading fandom sites about my favorite video games. Computers always made sense to me. I even owe my entire career to them.

But the internet today feels wrong. Whatever the fuck kind of psychological warfare is happening right now with this Epstein stuff is too much for my mind to handle. I can’t do it anymore.

I will love. I will vote. I will support my community and continue to oppose this fucking nightmarish system we all find ourselves in. But I need to sign off.

Imagine the door closing sound effect when logging out of AIM.

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[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 27 minutes ago

AI is the thing thats close to pushing me off. I've loved it less and less every day since it turned into a popularity contest, but it still had a lot of great stuff. Now its not even people pretending to be something they're not, its a computer program pretending to be somebody pretending to be somebody theyre not in the vain hopes that you'll LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE.

I'm not talented or special-skilled or super-interested enough in anything to warrant joining any niche forums. This right here is the last of my Internet I think. Once Lemmy is overrun by thots and bots I might be done.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 hour ago

I keep a book on my person at all times now. Instead of mindlessly grabbing my phone (internet propaganda portal), I'll grab the book instead. Been doing it about six months now, I like it a lot. I still havnt finished a book, I jump from one to the other very often, but I'm reading much more.

Its okay to sign off. I had a panic attack two weeks ago, and basically had to sign off for a time. I'm still keeping distance from the internet though. Renewing my love of reading has been a serious positive though.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I've given up on the super-corporate side of the Internet.

99% of my Internet use is Mastodon and Lemmy, both of which don't really represent "the Internet". I sail the high seas occasionally to help meet my other needs.

Yes, multiplayer gaming is toxic as hell. If I'm doing that, I have chat turned off, but mostly I've managed to finagle the Internet into my own personal, cozy little Hobbiton derivative, so it doesn't feel quite so toxic to me as it might to the population at large.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Pretty much. Recently got a device for Meshtastic, need to get around to playing with it. If I recall, SearX is an open-source search engine yeah? We should mod it to explicitly block the corpoweb as a whole and strictly favor results from foss and federated sources.

[–] fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 hours ago

I am not giving up on the internet, but I have slowed down quite a lot in the past 5 years. I check very few sites anymore, I no longer game on multiplayer. In fact, I was even content being on a 50MBps internet plan. But, my ISP stupidly got rid of that plan so I find 100MBps too much for someone who isn't going to utilize all of its speed. I don't need anything beyond 100MB anyways.

Been online for over three decades, the internet has helped me in many ways, but it also has made me feel the worst of ways. Like having incredulous bouts of depression that yearns for yesteryear's internet because today's internet is all noise. It's just noise and nothing truly innovative has been made that is interesting. Everything that gets made, all serve means to increase advantages for those that cause problems.

If it hasn't happened already yet but I predict within the next 5 years, all I'm going to care about is just streaming and e-mail checking. I'll just join the old crowd.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

I almost feel the same, too much USA doomnews about Trump and Epstein. Here, people break rules too, just to spam USA news 24/7.
My solution to combat this, was to block keywords(Lemmy) and access website I only need(forums, websites etc).

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

Good luck! Come back and let the rest of us know what it's like out there.

[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

*humanity

but yes, i'm vastly returning to an offline, analog life.

when i stay on, it's self-hosted and smolnet

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 4 points 4 hours ago

The Internet as a whole isn't the problem. Specific sites are. Steer clear from those sites, and you'll be just fine. Take notice of which sites and services result in negative emotions, and find alternatives to those places.

spoiler
All the popular sites will be on that list. Anything made by one of the big companies is permanently contaminated. If it involves Meta, Xitter, Reddit in any way, you're better off without it. Also, many popular news are built on the idea of spreading fear and anxiety. Avoid those sites too.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If you feel you have to step away, then do it for yourself - keep being mindful of the cause. Because it's not a shut and close situation.

Life is always changing, tonight you might not want the internet - half a year from now you might need a very obscure information and you will be able to look it up and log off again.

I love the internet, because it is amazing tool. And so much knowledge is at the tip of your fingerprints! In my childhood if I wanted to learn something I hoped we had the right book home, or it's library time with the cards and looking for books and hoping the book had an appendices...
Internet does have a rotten part to it - but to give up all the free education YouTube has, all the wikis on the world - it would be going backwards for me.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Knowledge was at your fingertips. Now it's not quite that. I put a question into a search engine and don't get a good answer. Not from the search page, and the enshitified results are almost all written by machines, repeating the question over in every way it could be said, and explaining in exhuastive detail why someone would want to know the answer, all to hit the search engine requirements, then maybe a sentence or two with a lousy answer.

But you might not be able to find the answer on the page. I've to cycle through multiple pages and scan ai written prose to find an answer that I used to get instantly right from the search page.

I know it can work better, because it did work better. 2021 the enshitification became ubiquitous. That is hardly the only way information is no longer available. Dependent as we are on Search Engines for access to this information, and malign forces having their hooks into those For Profit search engines, we are entering a dark age.

Unless we get some players not in the Shit Trust, the anti competitive providers of any sector that have decided to all do a shit job to maximize profit rather than compete to offer the best products.

Or Trustshit, trustshittered search engines, I'm still workshopping the name.

[–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 31 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Set up your own website if you haven't already, the indie web/smallnet/etc movement lately has been really cool to see and has made the internet fun again for me. Neocities is a great place to start if you need simple hosting, completely free and without ads

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

Wasn't there just a thing with search engines de-indexing neocities and the like so no one could find them from search engines?

Search engines are the achilles heel of the internet. The enshitification bottleneck. We need ways to access information around these large for profit companies, as they no longer are doing an honest, honorable job, but maximizing profit in a plutocracy governed by dictators and corrupt soon to fall to fascism liberal democracies.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 12 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

How are people finding these types or sites? I love the idea of it but I don't understand how any of it gets discovered.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 2 hours ago

I just tell people to go visit https://soulism.net/ as often as I get the chance

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

this search engine finds smaller unique sites, lots of them happen to be neocities sites. Just refresh the page and see whats out there: https://old-search.marginalia.nu/search?query=browse%3Arandom

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Neat, but this only makes me miss StumbleUpon. It was so freaking good for discovering niche websites. I have no idea why it shut down.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

I still doomscroll to stay a little informed but my recent salvation has been free ebooks on my phone. Same phone strolling action but instead of doom, I get fun little mysteries.

[–] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The Internet sucks now. There's just not "things" on it anymore. When I was a teenager, there was always something new and interesting to do online. Modern Internet is social media, streaming, and shopping. It's just not the same.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, it was a trove of discovery, now its all data gleaning and AI marketing slop, and other garbage.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

The library of Alexandria, burns again.

[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 41 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I'm ready to give up on most things.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@piefed.social 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Already have. Continued existence is mainly just for the benefit of the spouse who actually has things worse than I.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

Inertia is really the only thing keeping me alive at this point...

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, it's just getting good. The Epstein/Mossad files are slowly melting the fascist tide by exposing the perverts behind the curtain. The billionaires are losing their control over information to first hand accounts posted live so we can all see the truth before the spin. The Internet is the forefront of understanding what is about to happen.

Don't quit now. If you want to see the truth, the Internet is the last place to host it unfiltered. Quitting is how the billionaires get people to only see the world through captured media.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 4 hours ago

Fucking optimist over there. There is nothing to celebrate, all epstein has showed us is nothing will force consequences for our connected rich in the west, our opposition to fascists is controlled to prevent us from seeing them face consequences, and that the worst people in the world hold an absolute veto over a critical mass of our lawmakers with that information.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Don't give up, stick to places that don't suck. Corpotrash is replacable

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I agree! If we give up and move somewhere else, they'd just follow us and ruin it.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 4 hours ago

Not if it's set up right. This federation is the model, it just needs to be tweaked. Clear rules on instances that can talk between the lemmy and piefeds to the open source facebook and twatter and instagram type social medias. One account that can travel between them.

More than that, to have a clear set of rules for moderation, both in the instances and the general forums, and for violations to be appealable, and a final decision contested to end in a jury trial of users. To prevent the powerful from getting their hooks in, and to prevent the moderators and administrators being unjust. It's the only way to get the critical mass we need to have a viable alternative to these silicon valley parasites that are in thrall to big business and government.

Also in addition we need new sort of organizations, ones where innumerable groups can cooperate on what they agree on on general forums, as they see fit. Privately and publicly, where we can pool knowledge, funding, create businesses where maximizing revenue isn't the only concern in sectors where the private market isn't providing needed outcomes, finding and grooming and electing political candidates, pooling votes and collectively using votes and other actions to force poliiticians to adopt our positions over those of monied interests.

Monied interests cooperate on what they agree on, and if we don't do the same we can never counter-act them. We are stronger than the united greed of those interests, that is hurting itself long term to maximize it's short term profit. We just need the forums to work together. Federated systems are that forum, to remove liability from he whole for one thing.

[–] _ed@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago

Get off gen social. Contribute what you can and help to build niche communities that interest you.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 13 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

I understand completely but am trying to mold my access to the world in a way that doesn't cause me such depression. I don't use the normal social networks, I've used the piefed filters to block everything about musk, trump, ice, america, politics, etc. and I've never followed any kind of "news".

Before I did that, I was literally becoming chronically suicidal(well, that's not gone but it's better) from the absolute shit-show that the world has become(it's not just the US, other countries are quickly adopting the bipartisan hatred model now that they see it works to divide). It would be different if you saw something regarding a change towards improvement but that's never seen, you just get another endless scroll of shit that is destroying society with no way to change it.

The fediverse is just as bad as any other social network out there. Although the leaning is opposite, it's still full of extremism, hyperbolic hatred, ridicule, mockery, division and sufferporn. Without filters, it would be as unusable to me as, say, facebook or trump's social network.

I'm withdrawing a lot from people online but still spend a lot of time online, it's just not as interactive as it used to be.

If this is not sustainable, I'm sure I'll likely follow your lead and leave it to the rest of the world.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 2 points 10 hours ago

I've done this as best I can too. It was hard because I feel a need to be informed, but I came to the conclusion that being informed was actually only making me miserable, and didn't actually spur any kind of action. It was actually the opposite because the fear machine kept me paralyzed with despair and cynicism.

I cut out as much as I can, and while things are still tough, I have more mental capacity to focus on what's actually happening to me in the here and now.

You might know it already but I would recommend a free newsletter called Fix the News. It's a roundup of only positive news, and not fluff either. It's honestly done a lot to make me realize the endless bad news is a very narrow look at what's happening in the world.

[–] cosmOS@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago

It would be different if you saw something regarding a change towards improvement but that's never seen, you just get another endless scroll of shit that is destroying society with no way to change it.

Yes, that’s exactly how I feel. It’s almost as if it’s being deliberately rubbed in our faces about our true collective powerlessness in this moment.

The fediverse is just as bad as any other social network out there. Although the leaning is opposite, it's still full of extremism, hyperbolic hatred, ridicule, mockery, division and sufferporn. Without filters, it would be as unusable to me as, say, facebook or trump's social network.

Yes! I have so many filters enabled in my Lemmy client, but this morning, I stumbled upon a screenshot (since filters aren’t smart enough to extract content from screenshots) of an Epstein email that was so incredibly disturbing in its implication. These aren’t my vile thoughts, yet they’ve been bouncing around my mind all day.

I can’t take it anymore.

Please stay strong out there.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

If the fediverse were to collapse, I'd be done. Its the one thing worth being hopeful about right now.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

Still good to find "free" content 😏

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 7 points 12 hours ago

You might be done with people, not the internet.

[–] fizzle@quokk.au 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah the internet is cooked.

Im trying to invest more time in off-line things.

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

like the n64

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 13 hours ago

Be mindful that it's a tool, use it to benefit youself

I jave been onlone from the dialup and BBS days of the 1980's when it was the reserve of nerds, it's accelerated the enshitifcation process in the last 20 years and commercialisation via advertising is why, it's the only reason Googke, Facebook etal exist

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago

not this part

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Clearnet is completely controlled by corporate advertisers. You're looking for I2P.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Anything good on I2P? I haven't used since high school

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Lol not really, but be the change you want to see in the world!

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago

that sounds more like problems with IRL than problems with the internet