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Reform suggest people without children should pay more tax as a punishment.
(www.independent.co.uk)
Still cheaper than having kids
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I love the fertility rate collapse story because liberals and capitalists cant solve it and seem unable to see that people arent having children because of capitalism, especially this later stage one. The more right wing among em always insist its pure culture and we just gotta get a different culture - so their hail mary (as stated in the article) is stuff like a national holiday to "celebrate families" and wouldnt you know it, people will be forced to work it regardless lol. Or if they're really using their noodles they'll be like "ah but Taylor Swift having a kid and other celebrities will make people ignore their material conditions and have kids." The really dark ones are when they suggest banning birth control (rates collapsed before birth control and they were higher even when birth control was around for 30 to 40 years before collapsing later), or just straight up forced birth- this is the Musk post unstated suggestion of "we might have to take rights away from women" kind of thing, think Gilead but worse.
Also, the idea of taxing childless people is bad on its face. Like regardless, some people are just infertile through no fault of their own. Tax em for a health condition, sure whatever 🙄 Secondly, we really want parents who only had kids for the tax benefits and not cause they love their kids?? They really can't square the circle while keeping capitalism, and they have to keep capitalism so I guess its just intractable then
I'm still expected to leave my personal life out of work when my work is inside of my personal life. No kids yet, but if ever they're going to impact my work because they need this thing called attention gasp. Goddamn tax write offs ruining my career... Common capitalism L
You're using your mind and thinking rationally, it's much much easier just to blame the jews and black people for falling birth rates.
They really can't square the circle while keeping capitalism, and they have to keep capitalism so I guess its just intractable then
Always with those pesky goddamn internal contradictions!
Careful now, you know what has happened in the past to politicians trying to get people to fuck.
I think ideally these fuckers would like to turn women into broodmares, but even that would involve increasing men's wages so 🤷
Don't we already do (or used to do) something similar in America through child tax credits? I think you might get the cash upfront but it is still effectively a discount on your taxes.
I will not pay the straight jizya tax.
Will the tax be higher than the money and labor cost of raising a child lol?
out of all the soviet policies they could choose to copy...
Besides just not wanting to have kids, being taxed for being trans, not straight, infertile, didability, or single.
ow many of these "exogenous" conditions will exemptions be made for?
If exemptions are made for being single, then this discentivises marriage (lol)
Exemptions for infertility will probably be made, although there is no way they'll make it easy to get an exemption.
Exemptions for sexual orientation, under reform? Not happening (another reason to hate cishets)
Exemptions for minority groups or "genetically disabled" will almost certainly be made (because why wouldn't reform pursue eugenics?)
The only exemptions will be for situations mostly affecting middle-to-upper class cis men. I have no hard evidence for that assumption, but I would bet money on it.
Rip incels
Not carrot, only stick
Are they giving the taxes to people with kids? I don't understand the logic
People with less to lose are harder to control. It's not about money, it's about power.
They give people with kids child benefits, yeah, but that's not really how taxes work when you have a fiat currency. Taxes are meant to take money out of circulation, they aren't what finances government expenditure.
Who’s got two thumbs and wants to make babies?
This guy!
taxes bad 😡