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[–] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 34 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I'm not being funny but it can be both. 

Square root is an operator that maps a number to the positive number that when squared returns the original number, but there is also a square root symbol. 

Similarly, % can be an operator that maps a number x to x/100, but there's also a percent symbol.

It just depends if you're talking about functions or fonts.

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Let's not forget that it's also the symbol for modulo operation. So many opportunities for ambiguity!

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I thought they meant modulo actually

[–] martinborgen@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

At first glance I thought it was a joke about how programmers use modulo as an operator, while mathematicians use it as a relations thing. I never really understood the way the mathematicians use it tbh

[–] asow8@mander.xyz 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The difference between you and the people this meme is about is you understand that both space or no space are fine.

For more context, I was trained to use a space between a number and its unit (e.g. 2 mol, 3 g, 1 M) for scientific writing. This includes the % sign when it follows a number (i.e. 100 %). So percent yields would be reported as 78 % instead of 78%. On the flip side, units that contain the % sign would not use a space. For example, mol% and wt% would not use a space to separate the % sign from the rest of the unit (i.e. 2 mol%).

Since I was taught this from the very beginning of university, I never really questioned where the convention came from. Now, I work for a PI who does not use the space for %. Every time I write something (presentations, manuscripts, etc.), they clarify that % is a mathematical operator so there is no space. After a search to defend my position, I found the SI brochure from the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures that clearly states the use of a space.

Recently in group meeting, while talking about something kind of related to units, they said that I believe there should be a space for %. I quickly clarified (and showed the SI brochure as evidence) that I do not "believe" there should be a space; this isn't something I have created in my mind. Finally, they said that since it is their lab any manuscripts must follow their convention. Now when I write, I write my way and change it when I self edit before sending it to my PI.

[–] flyos@jlai.lu 10 points 5 days ago

The "it's my lab, so you follow my conventions" for a thing a silly as the space before % (and after you've used a rightful source to stand your point) is a very dumb power move IMO.

[–] wiase@discuss.online 1 points 4 days ago

I was taught the same thing at uni (chemistry) but almost all journals in my field of work (toxicology) use no space.

[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Square root is an operator that maps a number to the positive number that when squared returns the original number

Nah, dog. You're arbitrarily ignoring negatives. The square root of 4 is ±2.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I assume you're nerd baiting* with that, but it's infuriating how many math teachers actually teach that.

It's not that complicated. x² = n isn't the same thing as x = √2 because then square rooting isn't a function, which is asinine. (Similarly to why 0! isn't defined to be 0, because otherwise it's a stupid notation that would need a piecewise function definition for just about every single application of the factorial function.)

*link to xkcd: Duty Calls

Edit: my phone autocorrected "isn't" to "is", lol.

[–] Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 1 points 4 days ago

x² = n isn't the same thing as x = √2

I guess that's what I was thinking. I don't think I can even blame my math teachers.

[–] ornery_chemist@mander.xyz 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

don't forget to make the space non-breaking :D

[–] asow8@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Thank you for your comment! I had no idea what this meant, but I just looked it up. I will now be sure to use a non-breaking space from now on and look out for a number and its unit on different lines.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

what is the difference between an operator ane a function? is there any? one could argue that the common operators are just common useful functions and thus there is no reason why % is not one of them

edit I thought you meant modulo operator not percent

[–] asow8@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Yes, it was only after the comments mentioned modulo operator that I realized the % symbol has many meanings across different disciplines. I was coming from a chemistry perspective, and I should have specified from the beginning.

[–] bryndos@fedia.io 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

5 % 2 = 1

Freaking hell even ddg search gives that answer.

[–] azi@mander.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Let the operator m be such that x m = (1 metre)x

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

And since it's a function with one argument we can interpret the exponent to mean repeated application.
xm³=x(1 meter)(1 meter)(1 meter)
xm³=x(1 meter)³
It all checks out.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 5 days ago

I mean, it's not like the percent operator only appears when the calculator is in scientific mode. 🤷‍♂️