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Trump administration officials have reportedly held several secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists who want to break free from the rest of the country.

U.S. officials met with leaders of the Alberta Prosperity Project, a fringe right-wing group of separatists who want the oil-rich western province to become independent, three times in Washington since last April, sources told the Financial Times. 

News of the stealthy meetings comes at a time of especially high tensions between the U.S. and its northern neighbor. During a speech in Davos at the World Economic Forum, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney spoke of a “rupture” in the world order, in what appeared to be a veiled attack on the trade and foreign policies of Donald Trump – but without mentioning him by name.

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[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

He's trying to do what Putin is doing in Europe but they don't have the opsec.

He's trying to do what Putin has been doing to most of America. But to be honest, I'm not even sure that Putin has ever been solely to blame as much as wealthy oligarchs in Russia and the U.S. who created him and seem to be on the same team.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 53 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It's not enough to foment insurrection in our country, now Trump is doing it in other countries, too????

Yeah, yeah. I know.

👨‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[–] massacre@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

We've done the latter since WWII, just not generally in allied countries.

Edit: ooof - just now seeing the "always has been" emoji. I'm owning it... whatever.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

American oil corporations have been financing those separatist groups and their astroturfing campaigns in Alberta for a while now. I wish the Canadian government called it for what it is.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

At least Eby was willing to say it directly.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Hate to say it but I agree with you. I just find Eby to be an asshole who never should have been accepted as the leader of the BC NDP. He treats his constituents like shit, then turns tail when he gets backlash.

But as the old saying goes a broken clock is right twice a day.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 34 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

His threats for Greenland failed so now he is going directly for Canada. Again.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

There's no oil in mexico.

[–] DOPdan@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 7 points 17 hours ago

Thats a treason

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 25 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They could just emigrate to the US

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 21 hours ago

But then other people would have it better than them. Right-wingers have to drag everyone down with them.

[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 20 hours ago

They don't want to give the people of Alberta the choice of being ruled by them. 

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 18 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Trump officials have met with traitors. Canadian traitors.

What else do you call people who would happily give up their own country to a neighbouring fascist dictator? Not even to appease him and save their people, but to actually support the orange shitstain?

[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

Canada merely needs to look south to see what happens when you don’t punish seditionists.

[–] whereIsTamara@lemmy.org 19 points 22 hours ago

Trump officials in Canada should be considered hostile enemies and eliminated with prejudice.

Canadians who conspire with the US should be arrested for treason and sentenced to life in prison without parole, without external communication privileges.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 18 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I know hypocrisy is a big part of international relations. But can you imagine the aneurysm this administration would have if they found out that the Canadian government had been having covert discussions with fringe separatist groups in, say, Washington State? It would be tarrifs and tantrums up the wazoo. Hell, there would probably be troop build-ups along parts of the border and all sorts of crazy threats/actions.

But the other way around? Nah. It's all about the land-grab and American exceptionalism. "Rules for thee but not for me."

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Viva Cascadia!

[–] CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Us separatists up here in Washington are in favor of a state called Cascadia that includes BC in addition to Washington and Oregon (and maybe NorCal), so it’d be a little different.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Yeah we even have a flag picked out. That said BC's inclusion is more of a "we'd love to have them if they were interested" than a "we have the right to the whole of the pacific northwest"

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

BC is Canadian. You can't "include it" any more than you can take Alberta.

Feel free to split up the United States however you like, that's your business, but Canada's staying Canadian.

[–] CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I don’t have anything good to say here, just that I personally have no intention of taking anything from anyone, and I support separatism only to the extent that it allows for better self-governance. Being extremely skeptical of Americans supporting separatist movements, especially right now, given that we have a long and storied history of annexing those “independent” groups immediately afterwards, makes a lot of sense.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Specifically Texas was obtained by inflaming a separatist movement then invading after it was cracked down on.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Hey Canada California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii would like to talk about an alliance of some kind

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Hell offer a trade. I'd happily join canada.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

And AB will be TINY cause they can give away land that’s not there’s. Ie. Indigenous land.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry to make assumptions, but if these right wing separatists are anything like American right wing separatists, would they not eventually just try to take it even if it wasn't officially given to them?

That's what I believe the U.S. separatists plan to do. Similar to the U.S.S.R., you'll probably see multiple states try to leave the union and form superstates. Once the larger superstates are formed they'll eventually join Trump's confederacy to invade, and attack their surrounding smaller states in order to force the remainder of the union to collapse.

Wouldn't be surprised if these Canadian separatists allied with them to eventually break up even more of Canada. In other words, it never stops with just one territory. The long term goal is to break apart countries piece by piece, and then invade to take over and reform all of North and South America.

There's this other fellow with similar goals in Europe. I'm not entirely sure, but I also suspect they (or more specifically the people who fund them) have been working together much longer than most people realize.

Seems like there's similar plans for the entire globe.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

They are a tiny minority in AB. Most Albertans are very proud to be Canadian. That being said there is all of social media (US) and mainstream media (all US owned with few exceptions) which will amplify this. There’s only 5 million ppl in the entire province. The main thing is they can’t take land with them that’s not theirs. It will start a war if these separatists get help from the US military to take Alberta. Also there is no independent Alberta, there is only Alberta as part of Canada or Alberta as part of the US. The US wouldn’t keep the name Alberta either cause it’s named after Queen Victoria’s husband.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I previously linked to a map of Alberta that shows the land that isn’t indigenous.

It’s a really small and disconnected area.

Kind of like the number of Albertans who want to separate.

My recommendation: they should just move to Idaho or Montana and become Americans.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Where? Just looked through your comment history and can’t see the map.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Well that’s annoying; my history only seems to go back 6 months; I added it last July I think. I’ll see if I can find it again; it was an official governmental map.

[edit] This isn’t the one, as it’s missing certain types of land, but it gives a feel for the situation: https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/04074608-dabc-49c6-b25e-840a4b2844ee/resource/3c91195e-9b5e-4c69-aa9e-963d4bec520e/download/ir-first-nations-reserves-and-metis-settlements-map-2025-10.pdf

Note that there’s also federal land that doesn’t belong to Alberta.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

So an independent Alberta would be really REALLY small?! If I read this map correctly.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

Well this doesn't sound like any bit of good news.

Looking for a Canadian Donbas it seems

[–] tangeli@piefed.social 8 points 22 hours ago

It's nothing new. Trump is just a bit less subtle about it.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Foreign interference. That’s being said if AB wants to become part of the US they can fuckkk right off - you won’t be missed.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 21 hours ago

This would seem to fall in line with current foreign policy. Should we be surprised?