Man they're really going for Nazi 2.0 with "I was just following orders" and all
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Speedrunning the Third Reich, the Confederacy, and the Nixon Administration all at once.
Don't forget the fall of the Roman empire.
And nearing The Day After Tomorrow combined with Children of Men.
28 days later not far off.
This country is possibly the worst position it could be in if we were to have a zombie outbreak. RFK would probably promote zombie parties to get your kids exposed to the zombie virus
Taxoplasmosis. A brain parasite, it affects the fear center. As much as 30 percent could have it, explains a lot. That is where they spread it.
Rats, mice that get it lose their fear of cats. All mammals can get it though.
That speedrun still takes a lot of years.
We are not in 400 ad, we are in the 1st bc. In the time of Sulla, a generation before caesar, in the agrarian revolt and civil wars and him becoming dictator for life, 10 years, and killing and stealing the assets of his rich pals that supported him because they feared moderate reforms under the populares. This is increased oligarchic repression in a terminally sick republic.
Honestly, I kind of hope so. It didn't go well for the emperors or politicos or the nobility, but the average lower-class person's life substantively improved when Rome fell.
More like, The Turds Reich.
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(Seriously, they all copied notes off each other)
The part of personal responsibility
This part, afaik, lies with the officers who fired the shots, and then moves directly up the 'chain of command'. I suspect they were told that things needed a little stirring up, so someone a level up ordered that group of agents to murder someone in cold blood, that day. Prove me wrong. Or let the charges be filed. Let the arrests begin with Noem, and Miller, and end with the grunts that did the dirty work.
Edit: @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca commented that it is difficult to impossible to prove a negative. And I agree from a logic standpoint this is true. With the new day comes additional information, so I say, Fine, then, prove me correct. Let the agents stand trial for 1st Degree Murder, which tho' I am not a lawyer, I still suspect this is a crime in Minnesota. Let the jury decide if it is beyond a reasonable doubt that these agents committed 1st Degree Murder, planned, and purposefully.
https://www.rawstory.com/alex-pretti-fatal-shooting-1st/
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a70177228/ice-alex-pretti-broken-ribs-killing/
No, it's simpler than that. No conspiracy here, just individual revenge.
Pretti got into an altercation with ICE a week ago, and they broke his rib. He got in their way again and they executed him.
https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs
That's what we're dealing with. No oversight, and supervisors actively looking the other way whenever possible as long as they bring bodies into the camps.
I'm not sure which is worse. smh.
I suspect they were told that things needed a little stirring up, so someone a level up ordered that group of agents to murder someone in cold blood, that day. Prove me wrong.
Demanding someone prove a negative is a poor debate tool. This one looks unintentional, of course, but just know that no one can prove you wrong.
So, let's assume stupid until we learn otherwise. Is that the 4th amendment or the 5th? Remember what Fonzie taught us about wrongs and rights.
Fair. How about this: People were killed and harmed in other ways by ICE/CBP, not just these two. There IS such a thing as the 'chain of command'. The agents that performed the actions of killing, etc., without due process did so under orders from their commanders up the chain. File charges, arrest, investigate, and adjudicate. Are you cool with that Homie?
Who gives a fuck who told her to violate the Constitution - imprison them
Throw Stephen under all of the busses please. Especially the literal IRL ones.
If we're throwing all the assholes under literal busses, Greyhound stock is about to go through the ROOF!!!
I know I'd pay for that ride
As long as it’s never Trump’s fault
I’m pretty sure Alzheimer’s has claimed the man and when he tries to drop dead of natural causes they’ll just put him on a ventilator and keep on doing what they’re doing.
Whenever I hear about that Im reminded of this epi of the Simpsons https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofEO5qKjrq4
Yeah, they're using him, not the other way around.
At this point I woupd not be surprised if they keep him hooked up to some kind of arcane machine and continue their religion/ideology based around fulfilling his will.
You know, "God Emperor" things.
But this is what she's saying
“Everything I’ve done, I’ve done at the direction of the president and Stephen,” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem told one source who relayed her comments to Axios.
They're all in it for themselves.
I’d trade Dogkiller for Count Orlaff

Gee wiz this sure is the most grimdark Collectible Card Game ever!
He can't be ended by a simple bus throwing, he's way too powerful.
I don’t want to engage in moral relativism and like excuse anything that Crispy Gnome has done, but it’s just cute watching a toddler with a magic wand face up against a centuries old Lich
MAGAt infighting! Yay! I’ve had a lousy day so far, but this is putting a smile on my face
I don't know how to feel about this, I feel bad for the bus or maybe I am jealous of what the bus gets to experience my emotions are confused.
So if they would have told her to jump from a bridge she would have done that as well?
I mean it's great that she throws them under the bus and admits their guilt but that doesn't free her from her guilt.
It's a matter of time before someone spits in their coffee. For now they can just go fuck off.

You think they've ever had coffee that didn't consist of >5℅ spit?
You do not have to follow unlawful orders. Not in the military and not for a shitty political party.
This was a conspiracy to commit murder, "go start riots by attacking protesters so marshal law can be declared prior to midterms" Murderous traitors.
Both deserve the gal lows
We all know that the mastermind is and has always been ~~Lex~~ Stephen.
Trump, Stephen Miller, and the rest of this administration should be executed on the national mall. Elon too fuck it
And Larry Ellison, Peter Thiel, Curtis yarvin, every politician on the Epstein list and every politician taking AIPAC money should be tried for treason
Come on, there's plenty of room under that bus for both of them, public transportation is efficient like that.
When is the Night of the Long Knives?
Excellent, let us begin with the 'under bus throwing'!