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[–] movies@lemmy.world 234 points 2 months ago (8 children)

“You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It’s that simple. You don’t have that right to break the law and incite violence,” Kash Patel said. Like Kyle Rittenhouse? Or all the other cosplaying Meal Team Six smooth brains that like to counterprotest? Cool, cool, cool

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 191 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Rittenhouse went to a protest with a loaded rifle looking for a fight, shot ~~two~~ three people, walked away untouched, was acquitted, and got speaking gigs on conservative TV shows. You can do whatever you want as long as you're on the "right".

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

fun fact: teenage Rittenhouse had better discipline and control during the immediate timeframe of him shooting people than these 5+ year ICE/CBP goons have

regardless of what he set out to do, if you watch the videos of the event, it's actually less of a transgression than the shit going on now. and that's, uh, sad.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

Yep, both were looking for a fight. But Kyle was actually trying to get out of the situation. These people are literally executing people.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (15 children)

They're scared shitless that Minnesotans will realize they can legally carry rifles (they need a handgun permit tho) and ICE only has pistols

They're already out numbered 10-1 everytime they get out of their trucks.

CCWs don't help, because they're not a visual deterrent and the act of drawing would get you shot.

But a big fuck off rifle will make them get back in the truck. America has a dark history, so fuck it let's co-opt it.

Let's see how the racists feel when they get followed everywhere by a group of people with rifles.

I have a feeling bare minimum they won't be so quick to escalate to violence.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

They pardoned the january 6 people. I guess that only counts if you're specifically aiding Trump in a crime.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 23 points 2 months ago

You can~~not~~ bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It’s that simple."

--2nd Amendment, Constitution, United States of America

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 months ago

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles."

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

In today's installment of "rights for me, none for thee".

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[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 72 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. -TJ

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I saw an analysis recently where someone went through the grievances of the Declaration of Independence and fully like 2/3rds of them applied to the Trump admin.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Remember when NPR tweeted the declaration and Republicans thought it was an attack?

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supporters-react-to-npr-declaration-of-independence-tweets-2017-7

Yeah, if you feel attacked by that, you're the bad guy.

[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 months ago

Archive link, with images of tweets intact.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago

I hadn't seen this, that's hilarious.

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[–] flandish@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

the fact that “amendments” exist and were won by bloody fights and protests tells one that the founding of the US was never, ever, about equality or rights endowed by a creator.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

1: the quote is from the declaration of independence, not the US Constitution that was written 13 years later after the initial weak federal government was found to be too weak.

2: 11 of the ratified amendments were essentially part of the bargain to get said Constitution passed. And absent the civil war amendments, none of the subsequent amendments were passed due to violence. (Maybe you're thinking of the VRA?)

3: that SCOTUS has devolved into a creative writing exercise in "how can we pretend the Constitution doesn't say what it says", apparently Jefferson was right and enumerated rights were a mistake. (Given the benefit of hindsight, an equally difficult process for removing rights recognized by Congress or SCOTUS would have been better.)

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[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

The list of grievances. See any parallels?

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

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[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's not how rights work.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago

The 2nd amendment is literally for when the government says rights don't matter...

That's how rights work, they're not inalienable because the government pinky swore to leave them alone. They're inalienable because the people are explicitly responsible for maintaining that.

Some generations get to eat the cake, some have to make it, and we're all about to get a baking lesson whether we want to or not, it ain't gonna be a choice.

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[–] bambam@piefed.social 58 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Has the NRA commented on this? For once, I am interested in their opinion.

[–] FEIN@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

as per the bbc article linked by the other dude who replied to you, the NRA and other pro-gun lobby groups have urged investigation into the circumstances of Pretti's death. I'm kind of interested in how much that divides Trump supporters who are mostly pro-ice and pro-gun. It probably won't tbh...

[–] Airowird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

The FBI immediately monopolized the investigation. The result has already been decided, they're just pretending to look at evidence first.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago

they take thier funding from russia, ask putin.

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[–] natecox@programming.dev 35 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Ok NRA, so they’re saying we don’t have 2nd amendment rights anymore. You’re gonna pull all that right wing funding now, right?

Right?

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Depends on what their Russian handlers think is best

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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He is betting "all in" that the Nazi party will remain in power. If they are deposed, he faces life in prison or potentially the death penalty.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (11 children)

No, he doesn't. The democrats will never do anything about this.

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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

Shall not be infringed

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Bovine doesn't wear as much protection as others. Just saying. Wouldn't be too hard.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think you underestimate how hard it is to hit such a small target.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago
[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vote for trump everyone they said. He wont take your gunes they said. I wonder do any of these 2A assholes understand how they have been played.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don't care. The 2A assholes are being outed largely as nothing more than racists and homophobes looking for a reason to kill people they don't like.

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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Disarming then shooting a man who's weapon was holstered would lead me to believe that the "officers" are not the victim.

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[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bovine probably cried when Rittenhouse was arrested, saying he did nothing wrong.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 2 months ago

These rights are what the nation has been founded on. Bovino is a traitor, and the 2nd Amendment should be used accordingly.

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago
[–] zib@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Sir, would you like to come down to Texas and try out that argument? I think it's possible you'll encounter at least a few folks who might disagree.

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

What's interesting here is it sounds to me like they're gearing up for justification to go after legal gun owners. Fascists like a disarmed populace after all.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 months ago

Those rights ONLY Count if you're MURDERING CHILDREN!

-Republicans apparently!

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