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[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Think of the hubris it must take to yank a soul out of non existentce into this... Meat, to force life into this... thresher.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 34 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Where did the idea that life should have meaning even come from? Do elephants worry about this? Because, if elephants don't, then I won't bother either.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If life doesn't have meaning, then what's the reason for living? I think that's where the search comes from. Some people need to answer the question "Why am I alive?" or "Why should I continue living?" And the search for a reason can easily turn into a search for meaning. If there's no meaning, can there even be a reason? And if there is a reason, then that must be the meaning.

In nature, there is no search for reason or meaning because the focus is on survival, as individuals and as a herd. Is there enough food and water? Are there any predators around? Are the baby elephants safe? That's basically all there is to it. No need to ask why.

Humans have added layers of separation between themselves and nature, so that survival is no longer a main daily concern (people living in poverty are a potential counterargument, but people in survival mode generally don't have the time or energy to devote to questioning the meaning of life; hence the question itself has a reputation for being a bougie pastime).

The search for meaning emerges as a result of the human condition of surplus, convenience, and comfort. "I have all of this: why?" "Why do I have a job? So I can buy food. Why do I need to buy food? So I can live. Why do I need to live? 😳"

If you have people in your life, friends, family, community, or anyone else you care about, then it's easier to find meaning. "I live for them." Especially when someone is dependent on you. "My child needs me."

In post-modern society, hyperindividualism and other phenomena lead to this chronic isolation where many people feel like their existence is separate and insignificant. So it's not as easy to say "Well my friends/siblings/parents/neighbors would be sad if I was gone." Unless you have a child who depends on you, literally no one actually needs you to live. And modern society encourages this sort of pitilessness. "Oh no, so-and-so died." "Who?"

Furthermore, I think many of the pathologies of the modern psyche come from a failure to examine the meaning of life. Some people assume it's whatever they were societally programmed to do: gain money, pursue ambitions, achieve your goals, be successful, or even "have a lot of sex."

That's why you have billionaires who literally can't stop pursuing infinite growth. It's toxic, it's pathological, but they can't stop because they've never questioned the meaning of life and simply assume that it's "become as rich as possible." Replace "rich" with "famous"/"powerful"/"popular" etc., whatever it is, and you find a person's raison d'être.

Not everyone is so shallow of course. Maybe it's something simpler like "see the world" "learn as much as I can" "become an expert in something" "master a hobby/craft/artform" "create beautiful/profound/innovative/meaningful things" or whatever.

But some people try everything, and can't find anything that holds their interest enough to become a genuine raison d'être. They skip around fron fleeting interest to fleeting interest, while the ground seems to fall away from them at every step. These are the people for whom an existential crisis isn't merely a turning point in their lives, but a constant, even relentless state of being that they can't seem to escape. These are the people for whom the "quest for the meaning of life," or even just the simple search for a meaning, itself becomes their raison d'être.

And when that person finally realizes that the search for a meaning of life is itself a vain endeavor? May the Great Abyss have mercy on their soul... 😔

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

People generally stop worrying about such things at some point, especially when they are in a position to follow their hobbies and passions & make satisfying progress & contributions through whatever they're passionate about. That's the meaning of life right there.

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

Idk man, stories?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It's a human thing. People need "meaning", which takes on all kinds of forms, from religiously following their sports club to... well, thinking about if there is meaning.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

I disagree that people need meaning. The idea itself is a meme and the root of religion.

"Nobody exists on purpose"

That's the beauty of life or the misery of it. Depending on how you personally frame it.

[–] morto@piefed.social 4 points 7 hours ago

But how do you know if elephants worry or not about it?

[–] unknown@piefed.social 52 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] morto@piefed.social 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The decision taker must be represented tied to the tracks as well

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Life has no meaning, just enjoy the ride.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Exactly. I go do things that I want to do because I don't wanna regret it on my deathbed. We are here and then we're dead. We could die any time. Might as well have a blast while we can

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 21 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

What if I'm not enjoying the ride?

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That's on you.

It's like saying you're bored. There is no entertainment captain on this ship and likewise there is no one that is going to seek you out and feed you joy.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 1 points 28 minutes ago

I meant it more as being an American in this hell hole.

[–] bananabread@lemmy.zip 22 points 9 hours ago
[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 hours ago

Change the ride.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Maybe have somebody ride you? Works for some people

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

Have you tried masochism?

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 11 points 10 hours ago

So, meaning is a pyramid scheme

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 hours ago

Double it and give it to the next guy

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 15 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Oh no?? ..... Oh yes!

It's great that there is no meaning. Embrace nihilism.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago

I made my own meaning.

Assholes ruined it 😢

[–] BluJay320@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 hours ago

Well that’s just absurdism

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do you imagine Sysiphos happy?

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

My main man Camus.

The Myth of Sysiphus is a very difficult read, but I would recommend everyone should read The Stranger by Albert Camus.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Nice marmot.

[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What's particularly meaningless is the comments on this article, after OP deletes their post/account in a couple days

[–] unknown@piefed.social 0 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If people stopped downvoting memes, they probably wouldn't have to delete and make new accounts all the time.

Massive amounts of downvotes display as warnings next to the username on certain instances, and this will attract more downvotes. There's possibly also a posting limit for people with huge amounts of downvotes, and more of a chance of instances hiding these posts.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

If their memes are being downvoted maybe that means they aren’t wanted?

[–] unknown@piefed.social 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Usually it just means that the topic of the meme/comic/etc is divisive somehow.

I'm pretty sure this poster is the same one who posted these a few weeks ago.

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They get a lot of ⚠️ next to their usernames and just seem to post comics and delete their account to make a new one and do the same thing every however long.

[–] Dupelet@piefed.social 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)
  1. The warnings appear only to piefed users, which are a small fraction of Threadisers. And given whoever is doing this isn't even on piefed, they wouldn't be seeing it to begin with.
  2. The comics they've been posting have for the most part been highly upvoted, so they would have a positive reputation score, not negative.
  3. There is no such posting limit. And it doesn't explain them deleting their own posts which have garnered huge amounts of upvotes and comments.

In case you are unaware, I'm referring to an ongoing person trolling the comics comm, it's been an active trend for the past month or so.

Edit: This comment thread picked up 2 ppl downvoting me and upvoting the other commentor immediately. Checking the vote ids, of course it's OP and their sibling day old account. Yay for vote manipulation.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Good thing that votes here have no meaning either.

People still can't help but get attached to them.