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Federal immigration officers are asserting sweeping power to forcibly enter people’s homes without a judge’s warrant, according to an internal Immigration and Customs Enforcement memo obtained by The Associated Press, marking a sharp reversal of longstanding guidance meant to respect constitutional limits on government searches.

The memo authorizes ICE officers to use force to enter a residence based solely on a more narrow administrative warrant to arrest someone with a final order of removal, a move that advocates say collides with Fourth Amendment protections and upends years of advice given to immigrant communities.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 133 points 2 months ago (9 children)

I wonder how well this new policy will jibe with the castle doctrine?

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 80 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Surely it will work, right? All those school shootings and accidental murders, they were for this. To stand up to tyranny. Surely Americans won't just roll over/cheer like they always do. Surely not. Lmao

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 months ago

Watching ICE target communities that have intentionally been disarmed as a result of mass shootings: lmao why don’t these dumbasses just shoot someone

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We already know how. It won't.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

When ingroups do it, its castle doctrine. When outgroups do it its terrorism. There is no law in the US. Just an uncivilized savage land now.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago

There is no law in the US. Just an uncivilized savage land now.

🧑‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] bdot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (4 children)

well - considering the “assassination attempt” on Trump, and how anyone speaking against the regime is a “domestic terrorist,” my money is on the idea that very soon there will be some ICE agents that have an encounter with “ANTIFA thugs,” and this is where martial law will be declared.

Trump is insane right now, and he is big mad that he’s not getting his way in Switzerland; he’s getting bullied right back, and he’s starting to see that people are laughing at him.

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[–] zib@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The legal side of it would probably be unfairly weighted in ICE's favor, but I suspect if they tried this in a place like Texas, by the time it got to court, those frozen water nazis would already be shot the hell up.

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

Which is why they're very carefully avoiding Texas, I suspect.

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 63 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

And home of the shame.

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

*terms and conditions apply

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was only Land of the Free while it was the Home of the Brave, but no one would stand up for their rights so they lost them.

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[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Castle doctrine says otherwise.

[–] PhatalFlaw@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Sir, this is ~~a Wendy's~~ Minnesota. There's no castle doctrine, but rather a duty to retreat.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 27 points 2 months ago

I could absolutely be wrong about this because I’ve never really looked it up, but I thought “duty to retreat” still allowed use of lethal force once there is nowhere left to retreat (for example, once in your own home).

Part of those pesky “inalienable rights”.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

Look, if I'm on that jury I'm not convicting you if nazis break down your door and you start defending yourself

[–] Pavidus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I understand, however in the article it states "The shift comes as the Trump administration dramatically expands immigration arrests nationwide..."

There's a reason this started in areas such as Minnesota. I fully believe this is just trial runs and laying the (il)legal framework to handle more difficult areas.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

"Nationwide" is sanewashing. It's really expanding specifically to blue states (because its real purpose is punishing the regime's political enemies).

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 10 points 2 months ago

Duty to retreat does not apply when you are already in your own home. It's only when you are in public or outside of the protection of your own home.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Incorrect. Minnesota has a castle doctrine for defending your home, a duty to retreat in public.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I found a memo that says they can’t

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

That's on their toilet paper.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You need the other document

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

(Hey, It's not illegal to quote the nation's founders, right? 👀)

Edit: Btw I remember this was required class material... must be awkward for the highschoolers of current times lol

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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 50 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If ICE agents were smart they would refuse to do this. Sooner or later someone is going to defend their home against these goons, using lethal force. The government is deliberately putting these morons in harm's way so they can use the death of an agent as political currency; people like Miller care so little about ICE agents that they wish to see them dead.

[–] itistime@infosec.pub 20 points 2 months ago

MAGAmind have their hands clasped in excitement. They want the violence in the streets. We can’t win direct conflict with their goons. We must not give them what they want. We must circumvent their foot soldiers, and seek direct action against their masters. Make it clear to everyone: go after the money

[–] mystik@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's all the excuse they need to ratchet this up another notch.

[–] mr_sunburn@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You could look at Renee Good and see that they need no pretext at all to shoot and kill without repercussions. "Don't feed the troll" isn't a great strategy when it's already gnawing on your leg.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How long till they break into a home and find themselves in the midst of a boobytrap. Nice bucket of paint over the door, that sort of thing. Nothing harmful, just a bucket of yellow paint to mark the cowards for what they are. This is clearly criminal behavior, and needs to stop.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think I've seen this one

[–] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Wet Bandits were just baby ICE!!!

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"advocates say..."

Dude, armed masked individuals are breaking into your house and kidnapping you and your family.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Sounds like a fine way to end up eating a buckshot sandwich, but I'm not one to interrupt my enemy while they're making a mistake.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They know who has guns. They're going after people who don't.

Love to be proven wrong, though.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Contrary to what many people may believe, while I'm sure the government has an idea of who has guns and who doesn't, I doubt that idea accurately reflects reality. There are lots of ways in the US to get or make a gun that don't involve anything beyond cash changing hands.

It's only a matter of time.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just a reminder that "the government" now includes Palantir's dystopian surveillance suite. You can be sure that every target has a confidence rating assigned to it as to what kind of resistance can be expected. The small percentage of people that maintain a low enough profile to be able to be armed without having any sort of red flag attached are likely to be assigned a low confidence rating. Yes, there will always be a chance that there's a mismatch. But the goons on the ground are being sent after the lowest hanging fruit. They may be mouth breathing meatsacks, but the ones calling the shots are not.

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People are already asking how long it will take for an ICE gestapo to get shot

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 months ago

That's part of the goal.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm shocked everyday that it still isn't happening

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They picked their cities very carefully.

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[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So they're illegally entering homes? Nice, we should stop them?

crickets

GDI

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[–] shani66@ani.social 18 points 2 months ago

People have killed cops and got off free of charge to protect their rights. Cops. Real agents of a legitimate state.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Well I have a memo deauthorizing it, it's just as legally enforceable as theirs.

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Trump previously: "Take the guns first, go through due process second." (actual quote)

Trump today: "Take the homes first, go through due process second."

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Trump today: "Take the homes first, go through due process second."

There is no evidence for the second half of that.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

They can assert it all they want, it won't stop them from being shot.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Next they'll be breaking into churches and schools, watch for it. Churches used to be considered off-limits, but I'm betting they are only off-limits in the bible belt, not the rest of the country.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They raided a school like the day after Good

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[–] HairyHarry@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

They already raided a school.

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