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[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 84 points 1 year ago

damn it's almost like China have money and scientists and can work out how computer chips are made

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

In fact, they have so much money that they can acquire American scientists because they either face discrimination or receive no funding from Americans

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 22 points 11 months ago

but every good hamburger-eating ameroid knows that innovation only happens when you are owned by venture capitalists leveraging vaporware to inflate speculative bubbles with hype and funnel all cash into IP lawyers to crush any threats to market share.

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago
[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

the world is not ready for Mcmahon Jinping

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 61 points 11 months ago

It turns out the core needs the periphery a lot more than the periphery needs the core.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Extra funny detail is that Schneider was tweeting about US rules against American citizens not being allowed to work in the Chinese chip industry.

Whatever will China do without the contributions of the American chip-making Ubermensch (who, for some reason, have no high end chip foundries in America)?

[-] gaycomputeruser@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

Not like a large amount of the technology is scientifically developed and the breakthroughs are well documented in research papers or anything.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

You see, scientific knowledge remains inert until it comes into contact with the C R E A T I V I T Y of the white man.

[-] LeZero@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago

The science putty gets shaped into form through the white man's brainpan

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 60 points 11 months ago

A child could have seen this coming.

Why are Americans so stupid???

[-] star_wraith@hexbear.net 46 points 11 months ago

Because white Americans think the universe bends towards having them come out on top of every circumstance. They never lose, and bad things don’t actually happen to them.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 11 months ago

Internalized racism and a shallow world outlook does that.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

how do I buy their stuff. I want out of the cpu spyware

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 11 months ago

i tried to find a "chinese" phone a couple months ago.. you definitely cannot buy one from any remotely legit looking site you can search for. but hey this is the price of freedom, free markets, and freedom, and apple pie, and flags, and freedom and stuff.

[-] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I personally prefer OnePlus phones, and every phone I've gotten from them has been directly from their website. I haven't seen a "buy" button yet on Huawei's site

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[-] moujikman@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

The Secure Equipment Act of 2021 effectively prevents Americans from being able to use many (but not all) modern Chinese phones. While you may see them for sale on Amazon etc, you cannot activate them on any carrier.

[-] TrudeauCastroson@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

You can't just buy a sim card and pop it into whatever?

[-] moujikman@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

No, the IMEI number on the phone are explicitly blacklisted for not being FCC approved.

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[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago

"But now the Chai knees will spy on you!"

-- most burgerlanders

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 19 points 11 months ago

Why do I care if the Chinese spy on me? They're not my government, and they're not likely to share.

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 11 months ago

That is a good question. Everytime I've asked this they either sidestep the issue or treat me like I just said the sky is red.

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

Red sky at night, Shepard's delight.

Red sky in the day, Lenin's up. Yay!

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 5 points 11 months ago

I believe some brands have official stores on Alibaba, but it’s hard to actually filter them. You’ll come across like 50 different resellers and there’s no moderation so sometimes they have “Huawei” in the name. It’s best to find a website from a free country and import it from them

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago

Necessity is the mother of invention it seems.

[-] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago
[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Okay yes we've had first protectionism but what about second protectionism?

[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago
[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 11 months ago
[-] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago

anyone have a Huawei phone? how do you like it?

i've got an old moto e6 that my mindless consumer self wants to replace but really doesn't need to

[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

Im getting a Huawei solely on the basis of reports that Israel couldn’t hack them to spy on Hamas

[-] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

Do not rely on that. The reports are that Israel did not hack them, not that they could not. If you had a top shelf team of hardware and software backwards engineering experts who could make hay out of anything you throw at em would you go with the most popular devices in the world branded google, apple and Samsung or would you try and get the relatively unpopular outside of China huawei devices?

I’m not saying they’re not good phones, just that they’re not impossible to hack and managed to avoid it by being too small a target for anyone to do the work overcoming the differences between them and other android devices.

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[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

I have a newer Xiaomi, wish I got the P60 Pro but it was too expensive...

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[-] mtchristo@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They still can't sell their phones outside of China. Cause they don't have access to google play services.

Otherwise its still a considerable achievement as those chips can be sold to other Chinese phone manufacturers

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 11 months ago

What? There are Huawei brand shops and service salons in Poland for example, they sell phones.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm sorry why do you think this?

Xiaomi has 11% of globalk market share up from 4% in 2018? Apple has 33% global share for reference.

Oppo, Vivo and Huawei share another 14% between them. Bringing China's market share in the global phone market up to 25%.

People don't give a shit about whether it has Google Play or not. It has an appstore with content on it, they're fine with it as long as they have access to other apps that do what they want.

[-] sysgen@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo phones have Google Play outside of China.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 11 months ago

There are more countries in the world than the US and China.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

lmao there are literally Huawei phones for sale in my country, what are you talking about?

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 15 points 11 months ago

no google spyware.

That's a positive not a downside.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago

They're pretty popular over here, second biggest brand behind Samsung

[-] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

They are still sold in Germany, however the OS is a clone of Android without any Google services. From my observing at the... electronics store phone display, you can download these apps pretty easily from the inbuilt app store.

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

As far as I know they're quite popular in Palestine.

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