How can Vance lie so blatantly and people still vote for him and his party?
this post was submitted on 18 Jan 2026
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From the few MAGAts still in my orbit at work, the only thing I can say is that you have several generations of individuals in the U.S. who breathed in lead regularly during their most important formative years.
The people who still vote for Trump are hateful. They are angry at everyone who doesn't jump into the same cookie cutter mold that they were forced to and they hate them for it. It doesn't matter if you're gay, trans, or simply an ally/not a bigot. They hate you for not being forced to live the way they live. They hate you for showing them that they're wrong, or more accurately that things might have been different for them.
It is entirely selfish. They are the darkest parts of humanity given form.
To add to this, it’s sunken cost fallacy at its strongest. They’re not just letting go of feeling angry. They’re letting go of their entire identity. Their identity IS hatred and suppression so to admit this is wrong is to admit every motive, decision and belief in their life up to this point is also wrong. People don’t want to believe they could have made that change years or even decades ago because the only one stopping them was themselves.
This is also why no argument or discussion thats contrary to their beliefs go anywhere. Their beliefs are their personality so they take it as a personal attack on them and immediately become defensive and shutdown.
I know plenty of Millennial and Gen Z Trump supporters. Don’t blame this on lead poisoning because the problem isn’t miraculously dying with the Boomers.
Hate is infectious, and ignorance is plentiful.
funny thing, nobody has ever proven that he's not a couch fucking hypocrite
He seems to be delivering that proof constantly.
I work with mostly elderly people, visiting them in their homes, some in facilities. The number of them that watch and never question Fox "news" is disturbing.
When you believe you're not supposed to question authority, life is easier? I guess 🫤.
This is why my wife won't work in those facilities. She'd end up in prison.
Can't say for americans, but there in Russia the situation is presented differently than there on Lemmy. Talking points against the narrative are simply absent, unless they get 'rebunked' by some talking head, hence how Renee shooting even came into this discourse. For local news, it's the repurposing of talking points previously used for Europe as being overtaken by foreign savages, but, in contrast, there Trumpie and his kin are fighting it as well as they can. No mention of local communities, of violations, but the same talks of tsunami of violence like previously with George Floyd protests started by drugged-up leftwing transgender immigrant maniacs. You know the tone.
I feel like the Fox News bubble is not very far from that. And it's going on like that since, at least, the Donner's first campaign. The decade of brainwashing is so influential it even took a couple of my friends, who are not fans of local admin and watch international news instead of what's handfed to them, to start to admire the ways of p2025, Dump and european far right, and almost circle back to admire Vladimir, and they are like second-hand smokers at best, not primary enducers of american smoke&mirrors TV extravaganza.
Because... many people in the US wish they could shoot a woman in the face or they wish they could hunt down non-white people and brutalize. They wish they could "tell it like it is" like Trump does because this would spare them the trouble of considering the effect of their words on other people. Etc etc etc...
internal bleeding to the torso
Not in his torso. They're almost certainly just talking about a fucking bruise.
Just a reminder that "internal bleeding in the torso" means bruising.
And even the idea that he was bruised is a huge stretch
Ego took a massive hit, that's all it takes
No they are just lying.
ALL of the videos show him having no contact with the car. Either he got the soap in sock treyment from fellow officers, or there is pure fabrication. The bruising, if present, is not from the encounter.
Two US Officials with no medical knowledge?
I think they used medical knowledge to make bruising sound the worst it possibly could.
Are we sure he's not still injured from being dragged a while ago?
this case, it turns out ramming a law enforcement officer with a car causes injuries
I wish his lies kept him up at night. That he can so unabashedly hurt so many people for his own gain is a genetic trait that needs to be expunged from society. I can’t even make someone mildly uncomfortable without reassessing my approach to people in general. I believe, personally, that people do not have souls. But I know Vance doesn’t have one.
Saw an analysis of new vid angle last night... the thug wasn't even in the path as he set up to shoot. Legs a few feet away from the vehicle. The 'bang' in his own phone vid was just the phone and possibly his hand thumping on the hood. outstretched from the side.
She never turned wheels towards him.
Didn't Trump say the day of the incident that Ross was "happily home with his family"?
If he had internal bleeding, wouldn't he be, I don't know, at the hospital?
Every person I've seen claiming be a doctor has said this exact thing. There's no way you going home same day with what they're trying to say his injuries were.
Technically, a bruise is internal bleeding…. So he’s blaming the slight tenderness in his itchy trigger finger from squeezing too hard on someone driving right by him? Seems right for a scared, pussy Nazi like him. What a bunch of babies.
We need to stop spending time explaining why they are lieing, and just say, "we all know they are lieing". Their lies don't even pass the snicker test.
"Bullshit propaganda" is what they say about the truth when confronted by it, so that should be the response.
That could be like the new "ok boomer" for them. Lol. Though I did like "weird"
suffered Internal bleeding
So he got home, took off his wet boots, and saw a bloody blister in his toes. Internal bleeding!
It's a bruise. A bruise is technically internal bleeding, but "internal bleeding" sounds scarier than "he got a little bruise"
Right. That's why the murderer was moving heavy boxes the very next day.
There is nowhere in the video where it shows anything hitting his torso. Again this guy watched the video. Vance knows he's lying.
How do we know the damage was from this event?
This is the same chuckle fuck that held onto the fucking car back in June last year and forced himself to be dragged to try and justify his bullshit.
I hope the moron gets both an internal and external violent bleeding very soon, hopefully from many different holes he didn't used to have just momenta before
If Vance had any shame that would be a great burn
being so full of shit that it causes internal bleeding... wow
Wasn't the detail of him having internal bleeding discovered by an anonymous tip that was called in?
Thought I saw something about that...
I think it was proven he was released from hospital in 8 hours or so. Actual internal bleeding indicates 24-48 hours of hospitalization.
If that guy got so injured from the gust of wind coming from not getting hit by a car driving by at 2mph, there is something else going on. Lies and fuckery most likely.
Dunno how i feel about this yeh, well your mother was a drug addict, and it was her own fault reply guy, especially cause his account is using a very outwardly racist celebrity's name as a handle
we're suddenly all opposed to... stealing from work? yeh you can call it a hospital, but it's also a private employer a lot of the time, especially in USA
and anyway, replying to a nazi on twitter isn't accompishing anything aside from driving clicks on twitter
weird all the way down
Nobody is blaming the mom, we’re blaming Vance for lying about the facts.