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How can Vance lie so blatantly and people still vote for him and his party?
Can't say for americans, but there in Russia the situation is presented differently than there on Lemmy. Talking points against the narrative are simply absent, unless they get 'rebunked' by some talking head, hence how Renee shooting even came into this discourse. For local news, it's the repurposing of talking points previously used for Europe as being overtaken by foreign savages, but, in contrast, there Trumpie and his kin are fighting it as well as they can. No mention of local communities, of violations, but the same talks of tsunami of violence like previously with George Floyd protests started by drugged-up leftwing transgender immigrant maniacs. You know the tone.
I feel like the Fox News bubble is not very far from that. And it's going on like that since, at least, the Donner's first campaign. The decade of brainwashing is so influential it even took a couple of my friends, who are not fans of local admin and watch international news instead of what's handfed to them, to start to admire the ways of p2025, Dump and european far right, and almost circle back to admire Vladimir, and they are like second-hand smokers at best, not primary enducers of american smoke&mirrors TV extravaganza.
From the few MAGAts still in my orbit at work, the only thing I can say is that you have several generations of individuals in the U.S. who breathed in lead regularly during their most important formative years.
The people who still vote for Trump are hateful. They are angry at everyone who doesn't jump into the same cookie cutter mold that they were forced to and they hate them for it. It doesn't matter if you're gay, trans, or simply an ally/not a bigot. They hate you for not being forced to live the way they live. They hate you for showing them that they're wrong, or more accurately that things might have been different for them.
It is entirely selfish. They are the darkest parts of humanity given form.
To add to this, it’s sunken cost fallacy at its strongest. They’re not just letting go of feeling angry. They’re letting go of their entire identity. Their identity IS hatred and suppression so to admit this is wrong is to admit every motive, decision and belief in their life up to this point is also wrong. People don’t want to believe they could have made that change years or even decades ago because the only one stopping them was themselves.
This is also why no argument or discussion thats contrary to their beliefs go anywhere. Their beliefs are their personality so they take it as a personal attack on them and immediately become defensive and shutdown.
I know plenty of Millennial and Gen Z Trump supporters. Don’t blame this on lead poisoning because the problem isn’t miraculously dying with the Boomers.
I work with mostly elderly people, visiting them in their homes, some in facilities. The number of them that watch and never question Fox "news" is disturbing.
When you believe you're not supposed to question authority, life is easier? I guess 🫤.
funny thing, nobody has ever proven that he's not a couch fucking hypocrite
He seems to be delivering that proof constantly.