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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 51 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Under. The. Sauce.

Look, I try to be a forgiving person, but...

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Putting too much sauce on the bottom causes the crust to be soft and undercooked. So if you like a bit more sauce you can put it on top instead.

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[–] Godort@lemmy.ca 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is cheese, but when I want pizza, I don't want a salami casserole

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wearing its sauce on the outside like some kind of whore.

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Native Chicagoan here. Something that always gets glossed over is understanding that there's two types of deep dish pizza: stuffed (what you see here) and pan.

Stuffed pizza (from bottom to top) is dough, cheese (plus vegetables or meat or whatever else you wanna "stuff" it with), another layer of dough, then the sauce on top.

Giordano's or Gino's East is most closely associated with stuffed, even though it's often only referred to as "deep dish."

Pan pizza is almost the same in shape/dimensions, but instead of it being stuffed with cheese/vegetables/meat, that part is just bread.

Lou Malnati's is most closely associated with pan pizza, even though it's often only referred to as "deep dish."

The differences are incredibly important, and anyone who's tried both can concur.

Anyways, they both have cheese so idk what this dude talking about lol

Thanks for comin to my TED Talk.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago

Thank you! I like Chicago-style stuffed, but no one on the West Coast knows what it is. Hell, most people anywhere don't know what it is.

For those who have never had it: imagine a two-layer lasagna but the noodles are replaced with a flaky, buttery, yeast-leavened bread. It can be great, but it can also be a big pile of garbage if it's not done right, worse than regular bad pizza.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Pan pizza is almost the same in shape/dimensions, but instead of it being stuffed with cheese/vegetables/meat, that part is just bread.

This makes it sound like pan pizza is dough stuffed with bread, but I'm guessing that's not what you meant to imply? Regardless, I've only had Pequod's and I don't know which kind it was, but I know it was fucking delicious.

[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Nah it's not stuffed with bread, it's just bread up until you get to the cheese and sauce up top.

And yeah, Pequods is always poppin. Lotta Chicago transplants go for their deep dish, but their thin is better imo. It depends on how you feel about crust, too. Some people really like their crust.

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[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ha, was exactly the first thing I thought of too.

New York Slice forever, baby! Although Detroit style is quite good also.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Rahm Emanuel and Jon Stewart hurt the reputation of the humble Chicago Deep Dish pizza due to some crass comment about skyscrapers. It's a fantastic pie slathered in tomato sauce with a dough base mixed with corn meal giving it a slight crunch and subtle boost to its flavor. I get not everyone likes the unconventional approach to this dish but in my humble opinion it's well worth having once in a while, especially with a pint of beer. I only wish it were a little more common because damn not even LA has more than 3 or 4 joints that offer it and they're all a pain to get to. Just give the pizza a chance people, it's tasty and filling especially if you like your pie saucy.

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[–] dmention7@midwest.social 21 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I'm a relatively recent transplant to Chigacoland so I feel a bit of an instinctive need to defend deep dish. But really, its more of a love for all forms of pizza.

New York style? Hell yes Chicago style? Two slices and long nap, but still hell yes Detroit style, tavern style, California style, thin crust, thick crust, stuffed crust? Yes yes yes yes yes and yes!

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I'm a native Chicagoan and I just wish people would stop thinking of it is "Chicago style" pizza lol

There's only a handful of restaurants that make it and it's not even their best seller, the way more common "Chicago style" pizza is basically just square cut tavern style.

Deep dish is pretty good but I feel like it's its own category. IMO it's a bad choice for most of the situations you'd order pizza. It's extremely filling so it makes you tired. You have to eat it fast because it's only good hot (and it cools down quick). The slices are heavy so it's harder to eat without making a mess.

Like if I want deep dish, I want deep dish. But if I want pizza, I'm not even considering deep dish, you know? It's like noodle pasta vs lasagna

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[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My one and only encounter with chicago pizza was enough to convince me I hated it. Doesn't mean it's bad though, just definitely not for me. I think it would be better called a casserole than a pizza.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I’d love to know wtf they thought that was

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean, to be honest they probably knew it was cheese and were just being silly.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The nature of deep dish pizza aside, doesn't cheeseless pizza predate the kind with cheese anyway?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, but New Yorkers believe they invented Pizza. Not joking, some very seriously believe that.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Chicago Style is utter garbage "pizza". If I wanted a mess drenched in pasta and sauce, I'd get a lasagna. I once ordered a deep dish pizza at a bar, and like a civillized sensible human, I assumed it would be that crispy-crusted glory that is Detroit Style deep dish pizza. Not so, it was the vomit-inducing deep Chicago, which looks and tastes the exact same going in as it does coming out.

Detroit >> Chicago, it's not even close. I will fight and die on that hill, as you can actually make a hill out of Detroit style slices! You can only make shitty Agincourt mud out of Chicago-style slop.

[–] Westcoastdg@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

Until you said Detroit I was going to accuse you of being Jon Stewart's posting account ;) very entertaining post, I salute you

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[–] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Easily the best pizza I've had in my world travels and by far the cheesiest. A masterful one is a sublime experience.

[–] MissyBee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

This hurts me as an italian

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[–] FilthyShrooms@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

It's amazing how pizza was perfected somewhere between 100 and 200 years ago and then every city in America has decided they need to make it worse in innovative and unique ways.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago

By the gods it's the fucking train of food. Here's perfection now make it more expensive, harder to build, and somehow worse. Quick get Adam Something to make a video on this.

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am not huge fan of that style.

[–] ProstheticBrain@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

It definitely puts the pie in pizza pie

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Does it have bread, cheese, and sauce? Then I'm going to love eating it, don't really care what you call it

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[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago

Chicago "pizza" is more of a casserole in a sort of bread bowl really.

I mean that's fine I'm not saying it's bad but I am saying it isn't "pizza."

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

I don't care if it's under the sauce I still think deep dish pizza is stupid

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[–] starik@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Too much cheese and too much sauce. Too messy with the sauce on the outside. There’s a reason normal pizza is more popular.

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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I feel like it’s important to me to learn whether the sauce is actually good. I’m terrified that it’s bland. It looks bland. I cannot see any spices or herbs. This is stressing me out more than it should.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They are under the plate.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

depends on where you go, good places will have a well seasoned marinara. you can also usually see the herbs and spices they've used

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would eat one thousand slabs of Chicago pizza to avoid one bite of St. Louis pizza. WTF is up with that 'cheese'?

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[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

...I'm fine with just garlic bread, really.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago
[–] metawolfgxd@piefed.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

I like my pizza like I like my coffee, with no cheese.

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