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[–] oppy1984 3 points 2 hours ago

Actually we're long overdue, the time to dismantle the DHS was the same day it was created.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

DHS?

It's time to dismantle the USA.

Its at this point a failed state and it should just fall apart in 50 independent countries. About half of them (I'll leave it as as exercise to the reader to figure out which ones) will turn into Canada type counties with healthcare

The other will turn into 3rd world banana republics that won't be able to feed their own population while having constant coup'detats going on. After a few decades the world will intervene and install normal functioning democracies in those countries after outlawing religion there.

A woman can dream

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The world will interfere and fix them? Like who? Russia? China? Like everyone else intervened and fixed the middle east?

I hate to break it to you, but the problem isn't the usa.

The problem is the rich.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

Nah american people have all tbe power to do so as is

[–] ChillPenguin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I wish so bad.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Fuck Trump, Fuck ICE, Free Palestine!

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Abolish ice, abolish palintir, abolish space x and demilitarize the police. Police should have a bachelor’s degree at minimum.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Nationalise SpaceX or force it’s sale. Musk aside, it’s holding up American dominance of the space industry.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

the word you’re looking for is NASA. Fund NASA

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Rocket bros are calling NASA "legacy Space" when they haven't accomplished shit compared to them.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

No fuck SpaceX. And space Force is already nationalized but fuck them too. They all need to be shredded.

We don't we need to dominate anything. That's chud think. We need to cooperate in space.

Ok but like those things are also necessary for cooperating in space.

[–] ChonkyLincoln@lemmy.zip 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

It’s time to dismantle the US Government, prosecute sex offenders, pedophiles, corrupt politicians and start over.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It’s time to dismantle the US Government

[–] Macallan@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

He forgot to say what he would do to the billionaires.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 hours ago

It's time to dismantle the government in general. The government (through ICE) are stifling people's liberties. It's time that the proletariat has a say. Seriously!

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 14 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Democrats will never dismantle an organization that they gain so much from. Prior to this year, the largest increases in federal funding to ice and the department of Homeland security have come from Democrats. Who else is going to do the record number of deportations for Democrats if it wasn't for ice and Homeland security? And I'm sure I don't need to remind anyone that the one currently running things for Trump was running things for Obama.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 23 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

It's time to dismantle the Democrat party.

[–] FE80@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Shouldn't it be primary season for the mid terms now? Are there any left, or at least progressive, candidates running anywhere?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

It's going to start any minute, at least in terms of ads and stunts and attention-seeking social media things. But as we get closer to mid-year we'll see a lot more chaos and carnival stunts, culminating in November when it will be full on "raw dogging a warp jump with no navigator" level of chaos and bullshit to wade through every day.

I don't know who's running, but I know how i'm voting. With a few exceptions, all incumbents must go. Every last rotten piece of ancient, withering meat who hasn't made any attempt at reform or pushback is out on my ballot, and this should be our goddamn ANTHEM.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

If you’re in the US, look for DSA candidates in your area.

https://electoral.dsausa.org/

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[–] frisbird@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Wait what? Kristi Noem ran DHS under Obama? What am I missing?

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Kristi Noem's DHS is what we were warned we would get eventually. They were right.

The people screaming at Democrats for 20 years for not trying to roll all that police state Bush era shit back WERE RIGHT!

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago
[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 70 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (7 children)

This rally cry (to dismantle DHS) sounds exactly like the kind of popular policy position the Democrats always take when they are out of power. Then, when we give them the power to act, they refuse to implement it (usually in service of some nonsense like “mending”, “coalition building”, or “returning to normalcy”).

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Not even when they get in power.

Dems are already pushing back against people saying 'Abolish ICE'

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Because, let's face it, democrat and republican are two faces of the same coin.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

It's the same model across the western world. Two party systems dominate because it's the easiest model for the oligarchs to control us with.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 hours ago

We need a third Socialist Party

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 26 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Yep, so if voting is still on the menu, we need to vote out the incumbent establishment dems who refuse to remediate these state terror programs.

Schumer and Jeffries won’t even support defunding ICE. Primary these dipshits while you still can New York!

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 11 points 12 hours ago

Installing new politicians in the DNC will change nothing until those Junior members are confirmed to not be a threat to the current power structure they're not given any power that would threaten that power structure

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Bro, you can’t vote your way out of fascism. This is tyranny these are not normal times anymore normal things do not always apply for circumstances the courts the laws they’re not gonna save us. The sooner people realize that the sooner we can collectively do something.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 16 hours ago

Wealthy Democratic Party donors/leaders need the military in the streets putting down populist uprisings as much as Republican ones do. Often they are the same people.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Absorbed into the FBI and CIA.

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[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (32 children)

And how are we going to do that? By asking politely? Waving more signs? Marches?

Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

If you want people to vote for us when there isn't a Republican in the White House then we need to push for leaders who

  1. Consistently tell people Republicans are bad people with bad ideas.
  2. Tell people creating ICE and DHS were Republican ideas and they need to be gotten rid of because Republicans have bad ideas.
  3. Tell people things were better back in the 90s before ICE existed because we didn't let Republicans' bad ideas ruin everything and we could just go back to what we were doing then.
  4. Publicly disown anyone who tries to campaign with Republicans or says anything positive about them.

Deviating from those things only loses us votes.

e; deleted something that was needlessly proactive

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 20 points 19 hours ago

Read: There's no peaceful solution. Fascism in America has already reached critical mass. Start organizing before it's too late.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 4 points 14 hours ago

There are some economic strategies too, but they would involve varying levels of self-inflicted pain. They also need significant coordination to be effective.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter how people vote if none of their available options wants to do this.

Articles like this are how you get people to sell candidates that have this position.

I guess it's just easier to whine about shit though.

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 12 points 19 hours ago

Dismantle the DHS? Whoa there. Lets cool it with the antisemitism

[–] mar10sanch32@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

It's a war-time consolidation of power that has been irredeemably infiltrated & turned against the country's own residents. It can easily be dismantled l, with power distributed to competing agencies keeping each other in check, like it was for 200 years.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 11 points 19 hours ago

It's given me Nazi Germanic creeps since the moment it was named the Department of Homeland Security.

[–] j_elgato@leminal.space 5 points 17 hours ago

But then who will protect us from those 20 guys with box cutters?

You remember, the ones they used as the excuse to establish the ministry of the interior.

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