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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (6 children)

This rally cry (to dismantle DHS) sounds exactly like the kind of popular policy position the Democrats always take when they are out of power. Then, when we give them the power to act, they refuse to implement it (usually in service of some nonsense like “mending”, “coalition building”, or “returning to normalcy”).

[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Not even when they get in power.

Dems are already pushing back against people saying 'Abolish ICE'

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yep, so if voting is still on the menu, we need to vote out the incumbent establishment dems who refuse to remediate these state terror programs.

Schumer and Jeffries won’t even support defunding ICE. Primary these dipshits while you still can New York!

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 12 points 22 hours ago

Installing new politicians in the DNC will change nothing until those Junior members are confirmed to not be a threat to the current power structure they're not given any power that would threaten that power structure

[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Bro, you can’t vote your way out of fascism. This is tyranny these are not normal times anymore normal things do not always apply for circumstances the courts the laws they’re not gonna save us. The sooner people realize that the sooner we can collectively do something.

[–] telllos@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Because, let's face it, democrat and republican are two faces of the same coin.

[–] kablez@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

It's the same model across the western world. Two party systems dominate because it's the easiest model for the oligarchs to control us with.

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

We need a third Socialist Party

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Wealthy Democratic Party donors/leaders need the military in the streets putting down populist uprisings as much as Republican ones do. Often they are the same people.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Absorbed into the FBI and CIA.

[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's about the size of it. Of course the alternative is electing out-and-proud Nazis, so I guess its the choice that we get.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

We do have a better choice, and that's more grassroots, state and local involvement. The Democrat party is just a container, we can pour out the contents and refill it with something that hasn't gone bad.

But in order to do so, we need to destroy what's holding the contents inside, which is years of state power and representation absolutely tuning the fuck out of anything that isn't the 4-year WWE spectacle and circus. Imagine if we got involved enough that we could repeat what happened in New York in every major city, every governor seat, every state congressperson or senator.

We would kick the goddamn legs out from under this entire rotten system without having to throw a single molotov cocktail. But this approach requires getting a lot of people with the attention-spans of retriever puppies to learn some boring shit and actually leave the computer and socialize.