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[-] taladar@feddit.de 185 points 1 year ago

The only thing insane would be to let Elon Musk exploit them.

[-] rentar42@kbin.social 91 points 1 year ago

But that's exactly what every other Employee and country is doing.

And he's not capable of handling the fact that someone might be standing up to him.

And I don't even mean that in a "doesn't have a business plan to handle that situation" sense either. I think that he's personally not emotionally stable enough to fully grasp what's happening.

[-] justJanne@startrek.website 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every other country? IG Metall (Germany) is also preparing to fight Tesla.

[-] taladar@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

But that’s exactly what every other Employee and country is doing.

Insane behaviour has often been popular in society. Not sure what that says about our species.

[-] rentar42@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

If you want to go all philosophical about it, think about who decided what "insane" means. That was the same species. So we set arbitrary standards of sanity and then we repeatedly fail to meet them ... something something philosophy ...

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 101 points 1 year ago

Elon very likely lives in his own bubble with no one around that can disagree.

A millionaire could surround themselves with other millionaires and get a reality check. There are few billionaires and trillionaires, and they are likely surrounded by people that depend on the billionaires for their life's stability.

This is a good argument for taxing billionaires heavily. They should not exist and will be destructive as they loose touch with reality.

[-] Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's for their own good 😉

As a goal, that’s neither here nor there.

We should do it because it’s for the common good.

Billionaires only help society by accident - and even that’s unusual. We should help them make a bigger difference

[-] normanwall@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I remember reading a comment that roughly said he could have been batman and he chose to be a shitposter instead.

Enjoying the slow moving trainwreck because he's such a shitty person.

[-] taladar@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

This is also a good argument for not allowing parallel societies for different income levels or similar distinctions to develop in other parts of society which means we need to get rid of isolating factors like car commutes from inside the garage to inside the office parking garage at work. People with different income levels should interact regularly in an informal setting where they can actually talk to each other.

[-] PaddleMaster@beehaw.org 86 points 1 year ago

That means it’s working!

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Elon Musk is getting a taste of how strong workers unions are in Scandinavia. I remember reading something about McDonald's very nearly getting kicked out of here from Denmark because how it was treating its workers.

[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Psychopath billionaire gaslights unions fighting for living wage.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 97 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's worse than that. Tesla is refusing to recognize the mechanics union at all. The Swedish mechanics union has many members at Tesla, and have asked to negotiate, and Tesla is flat out refusing to sign a deal to bring their working standards up to national standards. This would be illegal in the US under the NLRA.

Union collective agreements are so important in Sweden that they literally are our labor laws. Sweden does not have a minimum wage or overtime pay at all in the national law. Those are always regulated in the collective agreement. Tesla is refusing to accept any sort of minimum wage, overtime pay, etc for thair employees. They are trying to do business in Sweden without playing by basic labor rules, and they are being shunned by all of Sweden for it. They will end up like Toys R Us in 1995.

Source: I am a Swedish white-collar union member

[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 1 year ago

Elon Musk: Everyone is insane!

Everyone: No, Elon, you are insane, and now please take your pills.

[-] Hyggyldy@sffa.community 53 points 1 year ago

Whiny man baby angry that he can't break his toys

[-] Whaler_Shaver@lemmy.ca 52 points 1 year ago

I hope this spreds internationally.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 42 points 1 year ago

And yet he doubles down. The unstoppable force meets the immovable object.

I hope that Sweden prevails. If the strike fails, it’s the end of workers’ rights in Sweden and a Friedmanite short sharp shock plunging the nation into dog-eat-dog hyper-Thatcherism, with plunging standards of living for anyone dependent on selling their labour.

[-] Guster@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Not really, this stuff happens all the time

[-] poszod@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real insane thing is posting and upvoting whatever this idiot says.

[-] 520@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago

Nah, let him feel the hurt. Let's enjoy the shitshow he brought upon himself.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Nothing matters to him as long as he's rich.

[-] 520@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

And these strikes will hurt his wallet

[-] SlikPikker@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago

Disagree in this case. Its good for people to watch him loose this fight with the unions IMO.

[-] poszod@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I agree that the public needs to see Tesla losing the fight against unions. No need to post and upvote another article titled "elon musk said".

[-] d00ery@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Guardian is a left leaning paper. I agree with the other poster that it's important to highlight and champion those who oppose exploitation.

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

South African meets Scandinavians

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

If Musky, and capitalism, is/are sane then being insane is just fine.

[-] geissi@feddit.de 43 points 1 year ago

Capitalists: We want free markets without government interference.

Swedish labor market organizes collective negotiation.

Capitalists: No, not like that!

[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

Every accusation is a confession.

[-] Voli@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

What our self proclaimed socialist Musk disagreeing with unions ?

[-] snor10@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

The insane thing is Tesla taking out wanted ads to hire scabs, disgusting.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Anything he thinks is insane is likely a very good thing.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It is the first time workers for the US carmaker have gone on strike and on Thursday, Musk, the tech billionaire and chief executive of Tesla, made his feelings clear, writing on X, formerly Twitter: “This is insane.”

He was responding to a social media post about secondary, or sympathy, strikes by Swedish postal services that are preventing licence plates reaching new Tesla cars.

Marie Nilsson, the chair of IF Metall, said the strike was not only a fight for Tesla workers, but to protect the Swedish union model.

Other sympathy strikes include those by service and communication workers, who have stopped distributing post and shipments to Tesla.

Some commentators have suggested that the action at Tesla could start conversations at the Swedish division of Spotify, the streaming firm, which earlier this year pulled out of talks about a collective agreement, saying it did not believe that would “add any significant value” for employees.

Comparing it to strikes in 1995 at Toys R Us, which the unions won, he said: “My guess is that Tesla will not remain in Sweden without collective arrangement.


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[-] theodewere@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

everyone should make it a goal to do one thing during the day that would make this coward cry like this

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

The comments on twitter are equally insane. Musk's cult continues strong.

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