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[–] Generica@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If Harris had won (and I'm not convinced she didn't) the RepubliKKKans would have continued to successfully bang their same old tired drum to the beats of their biggest hits - racism, xenophobia, homophobia, trans phobia, misogyny, fear in general, scary woke nonsense, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, and the carrot on a stick forever promising to make things better for the middle class while actually trying to eliminate them. It's painful af to live through but they have to self-destruct. And it's happening. Now.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah nobody wanted her but under her it at least world have been more.of the same boring bullshit, not this end times bullshit

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 77 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Biden should've dropped out sooner. The DNC should've had an election. Absolute refusal of any responsibility will only ensure nothing changes.

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 days ago

The Democratic Party is not coming to save us.

No one is coming to save us.

We can be saved only by doing the work to take care of each other, to protect each other, and to relate to each other as members of community.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There's a pivotal moment that could've changed history (on this front).

In Biden's final State of the Union address, there were rumors circulating about his mental deterioration. A lot of insiders were reporting similar experiences. These were often dismissed, because they sound exactly like attacks from his opponents, particularly on the right.

Then the address happened. Biden was entirely present. He was passionate, he was articulate. He showed no signs of what people were claiming. Clearly, he had a very good day. The criticisms and reports stopped, although he skipped a number of traditional public appearances.

Fast forward a few months to the debate, and he had a bad night. Everything that people had been warning about, was on full display. To make it worse, Trump's dementia was having a good day.

What would've happened if the SOTU had happened on a bad day?

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why do people forget that Biden told everyone he would be a one term/transitional President during his campaign. If theres a moment, then its the moment Joe Biden decided to go against his own pre-Presidential calculations and try to hold onto power for a second term.

Justifications aside, he should have allowed the democratic process to follow through naturally (as much as is possible in that byzantine system). And fully supported the Democratic party's choice as an elder Statesman and soon to be Presidential Alumni who qould be remembered for his commitment to democracy over power, rather than power over democracy.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

People forget because Biden made his one term promise in an extremely dishonest and slimy way. He never actually explicitly promised to be a one term president. Instead, his campaign organized a large series of representatives to go out and imply that he would be a one term president. He got a bunch of Democratic big wigs to go around telling people that he would only run for one term. His campaign organized all of this messaging, but he himself never made the promise with his own lips.

It wasn't just a mistake, it was a deliberate deception. He lied to the American people. He just crafted his lie carefully to provide plausible deniability later. Sure, there were tons of people, on his orders, saying that he would be a one term president. But he never actually promised to drop out after one term!

He's a slime ball.

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[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

Trump's dementia wasn't having a good day. He said his normal amount of stupid and incoherent things. We had accepted this from him as the dumb, angry, incoherent candidate. But when the smart, mostly articulate candidate had a performance that blew Trump's normal incoherence out of the water, it was too much to ignore.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Fast forward a few months to the debate, and he had a bad night. Everything that people had been warning about, was on full display. To make it worse, Trump’s dementia was having a good day.

How insane is it for this to actually be part of the discourse? About which candidate's dementia was acting up more than the other's on a given day?

The quoted bit above would give even a hypothetical outside party with no prior knowledge or experience of what's happened since, a pregnant pause followed by some variant of "what the fuck?"

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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sure she would have been better. But still a blue maga. Did I vote for her? Yes.

But I wanted Bernie.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

I'm on the other side of the planet and I wanted Bernie.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 93 points 3 days ago (25 children)

In before Whataboutism comments stating things Harris would have done equally or worse to excuse not preventing Trump during the election.

But let's be clear: if you didn't prevent Trump during the election you are accountable for what is happening now.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (33 children)

Harris would have prevented Trump if she actually ran a campaign in line with her voters values.

I choose to blame the ones that are actually in charge of the party. Blaming nameless voters is scapegoating. The party needs to change, we need to demand it instead of giving them an easy excuse.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It was literally Hitler or not Hitler. That should've been the only campaign they needed to run. We all saw what happened during his first term and we all knew what he was planning for his second.

That should've been all the information needed and anyone who ignored that information is directly to blame for all of this.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yup, and they literally still fucked it up lol

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[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It should have been that, but Harris was campaigning heavily to the center and the center leaning right.

Fuck, they basically muzzled Tim Walz during the campaign. Did you notice how he was no longer allowed to call MAGA weird? I sure did.

Then there was the fact that Harris had to run on Biden's full platform. I know that she personally disagreed with parts, the unpopular parts. She was never really allowed to say it during the campaign.

But really, I mostly blame that little shit Crooks, you either get it right, or you don't do it at all. Trump used that survival to galvanize his base, and that's what an election needs to be in this divided world. Don't worry about the other side. We live in different realities and, they don't often intersect. You have to focus completely on your own base as much as possible. They're the one who will actually vote, if you can get them to care enough to do so.

Harris didn't do that. And that's why she lost.

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[–] PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

And the administration that didn’t put a single one of these people in jail? Even after the fascists released a document that was basically titled “We’re Gonna Do a Fascism in 2025”?

Might that administration be… a little more accountable than the voters they failed to convince?

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[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My daughter dates a rich nepo baby. He loves Trump because he's made a lot of money. Fascism is great for the rich.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Sorry about your daughter.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (15 children)

Hell is debating with neoliberal losers forever about what could have been.

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[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Never forget US foreign policy is uniparty.

[–] OshagHennessey@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Weird how there always seems to be bipartisan support on pro-corporate issues, huh?

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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is a widely accepted paradigm in the Global South, where the majority of humankind calls home.

[–] unfreeradical@slrpnk.net 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Imperialist atrocities are excusable when they are ordered by someone claiming to be queer friendly.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 33 points 3 days ago (31 children)

I hate this line of thinking because it literally doesn't change anything for anybody.

You might as well put up a meme that says, "If a Asteroid hit Donald, we'd be in this reality." With space ships and gundams.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Hey let's not forget that Musk and Trump and others have all but admitted to stealing the election with voter machine fraud.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

She would not have dismantled United for Ukraine, which has been a humanitarian travesty in the United States.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Yeah I would have much preferred Maduro being conveniently couped instead of captured.

Everything automatically improves when the CIA gets told to be more clandestine and the president can just deny all involvement, along with her diehard supporters who insist she would have also saved Gaza.

[–] optissima@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (9 children)

She promised to continue what Biden was doing, which included continuing to run ICE, so no, not "not a single one."

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[–] Embargo@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I didn't realise Revd Dr. Robert Evans had moved onto the more palatable title of Ronald Reagan III.

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