Slop.

People who get mad at Cowbee's in depth responses are the same people who feel attacked when you are just trying to explain something to them. Like, sure big paragraphs scary, but, like, maybe read?

It's disappointing to see how db0 has developed, although they'd say the same about me. I really don't recall them being this way a long time ago. They used to be more level headed but now it seems like, ironically, they are a petty tyrant of their e-fief and they guard it jealously against imagined threats lurking in every shadow.

They aren't even capable of engaging with reasonable arguments. They just snap to accusations and knee-jerk reactions where they assure themselves that they are always in the right. The tragedy of this is that db0's skepticism towards hierarchy and how power is wielded apparently only extends outwards and never inwards into self-critique for how they act.

There's a good argument for the anarchist hero Nestor Makhno being authoritarian. He ordered the summary execution of leaders in his own military, deploying his military secret police(!!) to carry out the executions. Volin, then-head of what was ostensibly the civil administration oversight body, the Military Revolutionary Council, which had mandate over all things that weren't about conducting war or where it fell into a state of exception (e.g. Makhno finally giving Grigoriev exactly what he deserved when Grigoriev pulled a gun on Makhno) and so it was expected that Makhno would have held a trial and that there would have been sentencing. Except Volin wasn't in the room when this order was issued so the executions were carried out and only after did Volin express dismay at this action by Makhno.

Volin being in the room when decisions like this were made meant that he did keep a check on Makhno at other points, such as when a domestic Ukrainian printing press was printing material that Makhno deemed to be "too sympathetic" towards the Bolsheviks and so Makhno ordered that the newspaper be banned and their printing press be destroyed. Volin countermanded this order based on anarchist principles and on the fact that it was a matter for the civil administration and not for the leader of the military to decide.

There are other examples of Makhno's actions being just as "authoritarian" as what you'd find people criticizing communists for, including using the military secret police to establish terror cells in the USSR to subvert the government (remember this next time you hear the "stabbed in the back" trope that gets trotted out routinely), but these get overlooked or excused as being "Bolshevik propaganda". Meanwhile most sources are either anarchist, pro-Makhnovshchina, or they are primary sources from actual anarchists like Volin and Belash; never let facts and sources get in the way of an opportune handwaving, I guess?

There's other matters, like his personal conduct and the way he established a clique of officers around him and insulated himself from everyone else while ruling by edict, and the very tricky matter of the way that the Black Army treated the Mennonites. But that's a long story.

Suffice it to say that I don't need to explain that memes that glorify Makhno are certainly permitted there, despite him very easily qualifying for the title of authoritarian dictator himself. I already know that zero discussion would be permitted on this because either it would require db0 to acknowledge that even figures like Makhno had to, at times, resort to "authoritarian" measures (not that every time it was justified), and that almost any criticism of communist leaders could easily be applied to Makhno as well, or it would require acknowledging that Makhno was authoritarian and thus memes that lionize him are not permitted. Both are anathema to a dogmatist like db0.

Though I guess with specters like comrade Cowbee haunting the mind of db0 with the latent awareness that he will bring a very well-reasoned argument and the historical sources to back it up, is it any wonder why db0 acts like they're afraid of their own shadow?

They hated Cowbee because he told the truth

Oh my god db0 is the most miserable person I've ever encountered. Just total contrarian hall monitor nerd energy. The evil tankies aren't coming to oppress you.

They get so mad at cowbee and cowbee is just

db0 just digs holes for himself over and over again. Completely unnecessary self-embarrassment, even trying to bring cowbee into it and chickening out the moment he's asked for any evidence of his lies.

Not to mention that nobody outright says that they’re going to be oppressive. Lenin sounded great in . . . 1917 when he was writing effectively anarchist praxis. We just know that the creation of a new state is going to inevitably end up oppressing and killing those who oppose creating a state.

This is an excellent bit

When the proposed “solution” of the ML(M) would be to place me in a fascist regime with a red coat of paint and oppress me (if not outright murder me in the name of the revolution), I will fucking call them red fash.

@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com What's that a solution to? You're constantly paranoid about leftists coming for you, but never over anything specific. Solutions are things applied to perceived problems, so what problem is it you imagine you're creating?

Lenin, writer of anarchist praxis is a good one.

for some reason does more massive rants against cowbee.

We salute our legendary posters :07:

Idk if should be in different comm but with this and their support of angry quoka user getting worrying

rule 7: Do not individually target federated instances’ admins or moderators.

I think this is skirting the line, it would be a good practice to not do memeing, baiting or non-constructive commenting in that thread.