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At least 31 states and the District of Columbia restrict cell phones in schools

New York City teachers say the state’s recently implemented cell phone ban in schools has showed that numerous students no longer know how to tell time on an old-fashioned clock.

“That's a major skill that they're not used to at all,” Tiana Millen, an assistant principal at Cardozo High School in Queens, told Gothamist of what she’s noticed after the ban, which went into effect in September.

Students in the city’s school system are meant to learn basic time-telling skills in the first and second grade, according to officials, though it appears children have fallen out of practice doing so in an increasingly digital world.

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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago

If only there was a place they could learn that.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

When I grew up we looked at the height of the pile in the hourglass and we liked it! The rich kids all had sundial wristwatches though.

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[–] cheesybuddha@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

"Old clocks"?

Those are just clocks

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (5 children)

'Old clocks'? You mean... analog clocks? The ones in practically every household outside of America?

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

And in! Lots of homes (edit: and other places!) have analog clocks here in the US. Historically, the US has had some really beautiful designs, too.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

There's an interesting technology connections video on how analog clocks can be easier to parse how "far" through the hour/day you are with just a quick glance. Hand almost at the top means the hours almost up, for instance.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

do we need a video essay to know that a clock display that is basically just progress bars is a good way to tell progress in that progress bar?

[–] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe not but technology connections is great.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I have trouble with numbers (they didn't have dyscalculia when I was a kid) and this was a chief complaint of mine, moving from elementary school to high school, where the clock were all digital. I had to "convert" it in my head to the clock face so my image-oriented brain could properly grasp it. Took me a few years to normalize it.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The morons here are the teachers.

People don't know what they dont know and haven't been taught. We have been relying on this idea that each next generation just has what the previous generation knows. It isn't a practice thing it is a we haven't prepared the new for what the world has to offer.

We do this everywhere and blame the uneducated and point and laugh. Fuck that.
I can't wait for the students to learn and be proud when they do.

[–] stardreamer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As someone who is in a relevant field (higher ed), the teachers are doing what they can.

This past year I've had college students ask about the time during an exam because they can't read the analog clock projected on the wall. If you can make it to 20 years old without realizing you're missing a critical skill and learning it yourself, that's also on you.

We're also seeing a lack of critical thinking skills and ability to retain information. People don't remember things that were taught 1-2 semesters ago. Not that they need "a refresher", but completely forget core concepts (such as forgetting what CPU caches are in an advanced architecture course). Then there's tons of people who can recite every definition on an exam, but not take a step further to come to a conclusion on a problem. (Git revert reverts checked files, so if I run the command after committing a test file the file is gone and no test is executed).

There is something wrong with students today. And I'm saying that as someone who just finished my undergrad during COVID. But the institutions are adapting by teaching things with less depth, which then dumbs down further education because they now have to re-cover everything from scratch...

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[–] super_user_do@feddit.it 20 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I am 20 and I still remember newspapers and TV talking about "teenagers these days can't read clocks" since I can remember. it seems nobody has ever known 

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You make it sound like you’re old 😂

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm 59 and all the teenagers I knew could read clocks (both kinds) just fine, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

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[–] froh42@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Heh, I'm early Gen X bordering on boomer and as a kid I found it a lot harder to read the time on an analog clock as opposed to the Casio digital wristwatch I had.

Of course I could "decode" the clock, but it was not intuitive.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I was frustrated that I couldn’t quickly and accurately read the time - Ie: it’s 1:23 rn, if I was looking at an analog clock, depending on the activity, I’d round either up or down. I found the minutes too small to read, and 90% of the time rounding was good enough.

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[–] Jaybird@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Want to be really stunned? Like, of your feet stunned?

Ask them which country is the best country on earth.

You'll be floored...

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (6 children)

It takes just a few minutes to learn how to read an analog clock. Once you've got the idea, you'll be slow deciphering the time at first, but once you start doing it, very quickly you'll be reading it immediately with just a glance.

I see analog clocks all over the place, especially waiting rooms and public buildings, and I have a very nice pretty one in my house. I think the people saying they're not being used anymore just aren't noticing them, they're just background scenery to them and don't enter their consciousness.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

LOL, why are they stunned to learn this?

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's a bit scary that anything children were once expected to learn has now become "the calculator". When calculators first came out the cry was 'why do we need to learn to do math any more when this device can do it for us?' Computers continued that trend. Smart phones even more so. It is a part of history that is hard to understand, how did a former, reasonably advanced civilization lose its advanced skills? We might be watching in real time how it happens. Except this time it is us, not an ancient civ.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Experienced software devs and tradesmen know this pain all too well. Frameworks and widgets make it easy to do stuff quickly, but no one knows how it works under the hood any more.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago
[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

Uh... No. The teachers are not stunned. They teach those kids every day. It's you the reader who may or may not be surprised.

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (12 children)

30 yo and tbh not sure I really know how to read it right.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

The little (shorter) hand points to the hour, the big (longer) hand points to the minutes. That's pretty much it. And of course the hands move clockwise.

edit: I should also note that for reading the hour, the number the hour hand points to is the number of the hour, but for reading the minutes, each number counts as 5 minutes. There are usually dots between the numbers--each dot is 1 minute. So between the 12 and the 1 is 5 minutes, 1 to 2 is 5 more minutes, so the minute hand pointing to the 2 means 10 minutes after the hour.

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[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I just noticed that I don't have any analog clocks in my house. But I think I would like one.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

What a dumb take by the teachers. So what if they can't read some old tech - just teach them? Are the students also incredibly dumb so they can't learn it in 10 minutes? Seems like that would be bigger issue here.

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