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There's a post I saw on reddit that points to the dimple on the side of a milk jug, and makes fun of all the people who don't know what that's for. In the comments are thousands of people giving dozens of different explanations, and all of them are wrong.

It is not there to indicate that the milk has spoiled by popping out due to gasses produced by spoiled milk. If there was enough gas to pop out the dimple, the whole jug would look like a balloon.

It is not there to provide structural integrity, like lateral support to prevent the bottles from crushing. The contents are under pressure, so if there was enough force on the jug from any direction, then the cap would pop off regardless of the shape in the sidewall.

The actual answer is that the dimple is added to ensure that all of the jugs contain the same volume of milk. Plastic jugs are blown into molds, and minor manufacturing variations over time would create jugs that hold different amounts of milk. Larger jugs would hold more than a gallon. They could just fill by volume, but consumers are wary of purchasing a bottle if it appears to be less full than the others. So they add the dimple to make it so that the level of milk is all the way at the top with minimal air between the milk and the cap.

You can verify this yourself by finding different jugs from the same supplier with dimples of different depths, or even no dimple at all. None of those other explanations would explain dimples of different sizes or jugs without dimples.

TLDR everybody is wrong. The milk jug dimples are added to ensure the jug contains the correct volume of milk.

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[–] Johanno@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Europa has as far as I know only 1 litre Tetra Pak milk (non see through) or 1 litre glass bottles (reusable).

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They found milk on one of Jupiter's moons?! Pretty cool, I guess.

[–] TomasEkeli@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago

I think they're talking about Europa, the water-nymph and consort of Zeus.

I did not know she was that into milk packaging, but that's cool.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

It's going to depend on your country and the stores you visit. If I wanted to, I could buy milk in a plastic bottle in most stores in Belgium. Tetra pak also exist in various sizes, 200 ml is the smallest I've seen and 2l the largest.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 hours ago

Cool fact, makes sense and it is absolutely trivial but interesting. Thanks!

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 9 hours ago

No I never thought to ask about it. But it's good to know, I guess?

[–] pandore@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 14 hours ago (4 children)
[–] SuspiciousCatThing@pawb.social 10 points 11 hours ago

Absolute savages.

[–] IndieGoblin@lemmy.4d2.org 4 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This makes me irrationally uncomfortable. It feels like a direct attack on my worldview. You can't just put milk in a bag y-you just can't!

[–] okmko@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I have vague memories of my childhood visits to my parent's native country where I drank milk from a bag.

... And shatting my brains out which was probably not because of the milk.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Udderly foolish!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

It's so the sides don't sag or bulge when full. It's like corrugations in metal roofing/siding. Lets them get away with thinner walls.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

If that were true, they would be on every jug of milk, and they would all be the same size. I have a gallon jug in my fridge right now that doesn't have a dimple, but does have a circle where it should be.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The title of this post led me to believe it was about something else entirely

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 38 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

YOUR MOMS BLOWN INTO MOLDS!

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah? Well I blew into your mom's mold last night!

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

How dare you! She’s been growing that slime mold for weeks! Her project is ruined! She’s gonna get fired from the research lab you fiend!

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 66 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I don't think this is correct and would need to see a source before I believe it. I doubt the dimple is adjustable in the way you're describing.

The amount of wear needed to change the volume by a noticable margin would be quite significant. Surface finish of the mold would be degraded enough that they would probably scrap the mold before using an adjustment like this as the mold would have sticking problems.

It might be volumetric compensation, but I doubt it's directly wear related.

The mold is going to be at least two parts that split to get the blown jug out. The jug feedstock probably starts as a molded tube blank with the threads already in it. Would look like a test tube with a milk jug mouth.

Thinking about it, and I suppose you could actually call it wear compensation. Machine the mold with max dimple present. As your parting faces/lines take damage, you reface, and take some off the dimple to compensate for reduced volume. Maybe. That's my best guess if it isn't structual. Usually the rest of the mold has taken enough damage/wear that you're scrapping the entire thing.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 66 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

Believe it or not, @themeatbridge@lemmy.world is correct, just not about why. It's to adjust for differences in jug size caused by temperature.

Plastic jugs are made by blow molding, where a tube of plastic is warmed, then inflated within a mold using compressed air to create its shape. In winter, the air and environment are cooler so the plastic is also cooler and accordingly a bit less elastic while getting blown. This results in jugs that contract a bit more while cooling and are a bit smaller. To compensate, cool weather jugs have a shallower dimple. The alternative is either warming the air or warming the molds more, both of which cost more, while this actually slightly saves money by using a bit less plastic. The converse is true for summer jugs - bigger dimple, warmer air - as the warmer plastic molds more easily.

The dimple also adds a bit of structural stability, so the jugs can be made of slightly thinner plastic. These factories pump out millions of jugs, so even a $0.005 saving per jug adds up.

I actually did some work for a company that makes plastic containers, so I got it straight from them. Otherwise I'd provide a source. What I could find online that corroborates is low quality local reporting, so I didn't bother with URLs.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

This is supported by the patent documents for at least one type of milk jug, which I found thanks to Snopes:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/01/07/milk-jug-indentations/

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO1999022994A1/en (page 2 lines 7-10, page 3 lines 27-29).

[–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I knew the OP couldn't be right because how do you add a dimple after the jug is full?

But I'm not sure ambient air temperature during molding is the whole story either, although I expect that is a concern that is taken into consideration and the article below leaves it out.

The article says "*The high-density polyethylene plastic jugs are made of shrinks slightly over time. It also shrinks more in hot temperatures than cold temperatures...

Producers must make jugs slightly larger to offset inevitable shrinkage if they are exposed to summer heat in transport and/or go to long-term storage before being filled, but they want to keep the jugs smaller in cold months and if jugs go directly to be filled.*"

It's saying the dimple is to adjust the size of the jug depending on what shrinkage it's likely to see before being filled. So you can presumably have small dimples in summer if they go directly to be filled, and large dimples in winter if they're going to be transported and stored first.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/05/fact-check-false-claims-jug-indents-pop-out-milk-old/5458044001/

[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

That makes more sense. Nothing to do with wear. I guess the dimple would be a removable insert. You could have a selection of them and swap when calibrating the line.

I would think that blow mold is happening right before washing and bottling. Tube blanks are probably supplied in Gaylord's coming from the plastic producer. Transporting semis full of empty jugs doesn't make sense.

I'm suprised there is that much variation in volume, I would expect the temps to be more consistent. I guess the compressed air temp is the main variable, mold temps should be pretty consistent. Ambient air temp when the bottle is cooling probably also plays a role, more or less shrink before it "freezes". Not sure if they're made from LDPE or HDPE but those are both really stretchy, so I guess they very well could jump all over on size.

Most of my mold experience is in automotive, which is going to be a tighter process.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

You've got it! My work was about sustainability, but that includes plastic consumption, so I learned about the factors that affect the amount used. You're right on the process - they're gross immediately after molding, so washing is next. The molds are water cooled, so they're pretty consistent, it's just heating the tube and the temperature of the compressed air that's affected the most.

The volume change is unintuitively high. Jugs have a high SA:V ratio, being a curvy semi-rectangle with a hollow handle. A 1% surface area reduction results in a >5% drop in volume, about 7 fluid ounces per 1%, or 0.875 cups. Manufacturers really only see <1% reductions, but if they stuck with the same mold through the summer, they'd end up with a jug that looks to be about 0.5-0.75 cups low after filling. That's pretty conspicuous for customers, especially since the top portion tapers, making the level drop even more dramatic.

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[–] QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Aren't moulds manufactured to incredibly high precision? I can't imagine them having imperfections big enough to cause visibly different fill levels.

However, my only qualification is hundreds of hours of watched How It's Made episodes so I might be completely wrong.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 164 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You are correct that there is a connection to ensuring fill levels, but incorrect on it not being intended to provide structural integrity. It is both.

You can disable javascript to get around snopes adblock block: https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/01/07/milk-jug-indentations/

You can also view the original patent here: https://patents.google.com/patent/WO1999022994A1/en

Notable excerpt from patent:

When the horizontal ribs are not provided completely around the container, the face panels may be provided with indentions of preferably a circular configuration. The size and depth of the indentations may be varied to control fill level of a given volume of contents in the container in addition to further stabilizing the sidewalls.

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

Thanks for including this excerpt. I’m losing my fucking mind that OP was so detailed in his explanation yet left such a rudimentary question unanswered like “do they vary the depth of the dimple depending on fill level”?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The dimple was there for stress releif:

Combined with the octagonal shape of the container, the circular, concave indent on the side of a milk container increases the stability of the plastic, allowing the internal pressure to disperse evenly. This improved structural support also allows jug manufacturers to reduce the amount of resin needed to make each container.

Read More: https://www.sciencing.com/1865028/milk-jugs-dimple-reason/

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That very same article also does say however:

On top of that, the indentation allows the manufacturer to precisely control the volume that the jug can hold.

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[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (16 children)

I would not know our milk comes in tetrapaks.

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