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[–] Pistcow@lemmy.world 109 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, since last time he was president?

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Speed run this time though

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In 2017 Trump started with an economy that was doing ok after 8 years of Obama. In 2025 Trump started with an economy that was shaky at best.

[–] groupofcrows@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago

Months before the 2024 election Trump tried to take credit for the strong economy by saying investors were looking forward to a Trump presidency. Now he IS president and blaming Biden policies for ruining his economy. So Trump did not see the economy he inherited as being shaky.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

You ain't seen nothing yet.
Just wait until February. Then the bottom will really fall out of the job market.
And if the current policies are continued, it will continue to get worse YOY.
Foreign investments are declining, and the dollar is weak, so inflation and job losses will continue.
I think that's what they call stagflation. A combination of the worst of an overheated economy and an economy in recession.
Enjoy the things that are free, you may need to "consume" more of those things in the future.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Because both January and February are traditionally slow months, but next year will be worse than normal. My guess is that there will be a lot of firing, in part because many businesses will be slow, and second because they can't afford to hold people on for things to look up in in March/spring, and third because many probably will be skeptical that things will look up enough to keep people on anyway.

But all in all it's mostly a gut feeling from 30 years in business, and although I am not American, I know business in USA is harsher regarding these things than what is normal in Europe.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I sadly laid off last December, when he was elected the writing was on the wall.

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[–] rayyy@piefed.social 15 points 4 months ago

I predict the shit will hit the fan about March, give or take a month or so. High heating bills, skyrocketing insurance, and food prices coupled with a collapsing economy and loan defaults will drive the country into a deep depression. Not to mention the political shit-show that is deteriorating fast.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I am not sure if its really that impactful but there are people boycotting the US.

I personally have: deleted facebook account deleted google account deleted reddit account canceled amazon prime and deleted account (and I used to use these serviced A LOT).

And I don't buy obvious US products anymore especially when there are simple alternatives, eg Coca-Cola, Pepsi, Pampers, etc In fact for every bigger purchase I try to buy European.

I yet have to cancel Netflix and Disney though.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well done, keep it up. 👍
I already didn't use any American services much except Steam, and although it is American, Steam has been fair and has done tremendous work for Linux, which helps independence from plethora of other American companies. So I'm still using Steam.

But I'm not buying a lot of American goods I used to like: Californian wine, Bourbon, Heinz (Kraft), Palmolive, Gillette, Coca Cola. Marabou (also Kraft), Some times when I'm in doubt I read the label, that's not enough to detect a company like Marabou or cloth softeners that have local names and are made in France but owned by Palmolive, our replacement for that is Noora that is made by a Spanish company. Wife doesn't want the cheap brands. 😋

In short I'm personally going to great lengths to avoid American brands even when they are made in Europe. If I can get a true European product or from another democracy than USA I go for that. We are keeping it up as long as USA is acting crazy, and I hope enough people are doing it to make it noticeable for American companies.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm enjoying every free packet of ketchup I can still get. Some places are now starting to charge for cups of water or BBQ sauce packets.

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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How could Barack Biden do this??

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 months ago
[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago

Trump is teeing up economic collapse. Our budget deficit is 6%, well over double economic growth, and unsustainable. Our national debt is massive, and a significant chunk comes due in 2026 and will have to be rolled over into new bonds, which will undoubtedly be seeking a higher interest rate to compensate for the fiscal risk caused by the out of control budget. Add in the fact that Jerome Powell's term as fed chair in up in May, and you can rest assured that Trump will appoint a lackey, it becomes clear that reckless monetary policy to juice the economy will be in play. There is a reason that gold is in the midst of the biggest bull market of all time, and it will go absolutely bonkers in 2026.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nobody can afford to live while working. Now hardly anyone will be working, our safety nets have been dismantled, healthcare is an obstructive shareholder grift and it’s illegal to be homeless welcome to the tech bro feudal system. Your lords are not “geniuses” they’re mentally ill malignant narcissistic hoarders

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

When was the Trump economy ever moving to begin with? Seems to me that he slammed the brakes on the already slow Biden economy and has been driving in reverse since then.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I think it's stalling the same way a plane would if it's not moving and loses air lift. So next to come is crashing.

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[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 months ago

Can you believe Biden fired all these people just to hurt trumps amazing numbers?!

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 4 months ago

Trump is worse than a pandemic

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Employment is a Democrat hoax.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Trump is like manmade COVID for the US economy.

Sadly, the "normal" way to distract from failure at home is starting some random war.

[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He's doing a state of the onion tm night....

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[–] who@feddit.org 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The unemployment rate rose to 4.6% in November, up from 4.4% in September,

I wonder what it would be if this year's ICE hires were excluded from the "employed" count.

ICE has 20k employees (source) so it'd be about 4.6% still.

[–] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Is a "stall" better or worse than a "free fall nose dive into concrete"?

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Stall is better. They didn't use that description because they needed to save some words for when things gets really really bad.

[–] VampirePenguin@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

You mean Biden's economy finally ran out of steam.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So, highest since Trump’s first term. Nice.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

The highest level so far…

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

yeah but stock market!! 1!! 1!1!! 1!1

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