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    [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    Hardware errors often cause system instability hence this is false.

    [–] presoak@lazysoci.al 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

    How false are we talking? A couple seconds? Minutes?

    [–] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

    A lot of windows errors are actually hardware acting up. Such as an aggressive overclock or random issues.

    An operating system cannot prevent that

    how long since the boss has been asleep so you can finally restart without them calling two seconds later cause they didn't bother reading the scheduled downtime email

    [–] RazTheCat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Are we not doing kernel upgrades?

    [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

    Yeah that’s about the only time I have to do reboots at work which are 99% linux. Well the production ones anyway.

    Or the other reason is my lab having power issues due to malfunctioning UPSes, faulty NEMA L6-30 plugs, janky 240v circuit breakers or… I’m beginning to think my lab is electrically cursed.

    [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    While technically the truth, it can be a hassle to make sure you restart all relevant services after updating a given library.

    I just like being able to restart underlying system to take care of any possible straggler without thinking, and the services broadly be provided by multiple systems so the "experience" is starting up through a rolling reboot

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    Was about to say, "or if you're running Arch, the last time you updated the kernel or systemd version, so probably last week or summit."

    [–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Pretty sure everybody is missing the joke. The joke is that Debian packages are so stable and stale that you likely will need a reboot before an update.

    Also, it's a joke....please patch your boxes, k?

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    I've got a patch in my boxers right now.

    Oh boxes.

    [–] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I got obsessed with uptime in the early 2000s, but for my desktop Slackware box. It ran a bunch of servers and services and crap but only for me, not heavy loads of public users. Anyway, I reached 6 years of uptime without a UPS and was aiming for 7 when a power outage got me.

    [–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Skill issue. Next time you can open up the computers power supply while it’s running, splice in a second power cable, and attach a UPS without powering down or getting electrocuted.

    For legal reasons, /s

    [–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Not sure what your signature is supposed to do here but now I have 3rd degree burns and a fireball has engulfed my office wall

    [–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

    But more importantly, did your uptime get reset?

    [–] Nomad@infosec.pub 242 points 2 days ago (11 children)

    Debian admin here. Even Debian gets regular kernel upgrades that like a reboot afterwards. Security updates are more important than uptime. Also regular testing for clean recovery after a reboot is a must so a power outrage doesn't bring any new surprises with it. Also test your backup restores regularly.

    [–] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    power outrage

    New fear unlocked.

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    [–] de_lancre@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

    Even Debian gets regular kernel upgrades that like a reboot afterwards

    Use kexec then

    [–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

    As someone running a UPS on my ubuntu server, "uptime" represents the time since the last kernel release, and not much else.

    [–] Zeroc00l@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 days ago (11 children)

    Novice homelaber here, is this just a case of apt update & upgrade or is there different commands for security and kernel updates? Also what’s your preferred backup/restore software? Thanks!

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 21 points 2 days ago (11 children)

    I think you can do apt upgrade --update now.

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    [–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Nope it's just apt update & upgrade. Iirc apt tells you when the kernel was updated and needs a reboot as well.

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    [–] underscores@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    What do you use for backup restores ?

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    [–] Sharlot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

    β€œUptime” β€” aka the anxiety meter for every sysadmin.

    [–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Or if you have a UPS and backup generator or a house battery (do these need a UPS as well still?) it will tell you how long since you setup the system.

    [–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I would suspect you would still want a UPS. I don't think house "power" setups have the switch over speed even if they're automatic. Most home generator setups are manual not sure about battery setups.

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    [–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    How do I check when the last power outage was if it's connected to a UPS?

    [–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    That’s ridiculous. It’s much more complicated than that.

    You need to check NUT.

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Deez? 🌰🐿️

    [–] Magister@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago (10 children)

    This is why we have UPS ;-)

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    [–] negativenull@piefed.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

    My father was an HPUX admin that had a server with an uptime of >12 years

    [–] abs_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago

    I was introduced to homelab by trying to figure out how my uncles setup. It ran for 4 years after he died, 11 years uptime. The estate probate prevented anyone from touching the equipment for the legal fights, and I get a kick out of thinking of how smug he would have been about it.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Does NixOS apply kernel updates live? I can't recall from when I used it.

    [–] bradboimler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

    Mine doesn't. I reboot when I get a new kernel.

    [–] TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Heard of tuptime? I've been using it for a while now, I think I like it.

    System startups: 151 since 18:00:05 10/11/15 System shutdowns: 137 ok + 13 bad System life: 9yr 223d 1h 27m 47s

    Longest uptime: 106d 5h 34m 28s from 14:17:10 26/03/22 Average uptime: 23d 4h 32m 0s System uptime: 99.81% = 9yr 216d 12h 31m 51s

    Longest downtime: 4d 23h 30m 48s from 10:36:53 14/09/23 Average downtime: 1h 2m 46s System downtime: 0.19% = 6d 12h 55m 56s

    Current uptime: 25d 0h 34m 25s since 20:25:37 15/11/25

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago

    Heard of it for the first time (as far as I can remember) a couple days ago, on Lemmy.

    TIL, Lemmy's educational.

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    [–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

    step 1: sudo apt install sl

    step 2: fuck up

    step 3: ???

    step 4: profit!!!!

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    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    On my Gentoo server, uptime:

    • 21:47:56 up 2455 days, 15:09, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00

    Solid.

    Would have been double that by now if not for the fire.

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    You forgot to say "this is fine", I take it?

    Joking aside, I hope you didn't lose anything. Was it a big fire?

    [–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Those who manage the dedicated server racks service kept my stuff intact. Thankfully. Just disrupted my uptime.

    [User "error" since, has cost me a TB of data. "Error", fearquoted, because it was intentional... probably unnecessary clearing of space, partly regretted since.]

    I don't know how big the fire was, happened over 1000 miles away from here.

    So, it really was fine. :3

    [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

    πŸ˜πŸ‘ Good to hear

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