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The act of measuring human and animal lives by their relative worth is in and of itself meaningless reactionary bullshit, just pure discourse without any sort of bearing on real life. It proves nothing except for the fact that the person who's even making that argument is trying to signal this insufferable sense of superiority that's just pathetic really.

Nowadays, whenever someone says something along the lines of "I would kill a thousand dogs to save a single human", I just go ahead and ask them if they would suck off a thousand dogs to save a single human. There's really no better response, because there are no other responses that are worth spending your time thinking about. A ridiculous premise gets a ridiculous answer and that's it.

cute cow

vs.

george w bush

A blanket statement like that is very easily disproven.

"The value of a human life is worth more than the lives of thousands of animals" MFs when you ask them how many human lives are destroyed by the factory farming industry

Slaughterhouse workers have a disproportionately high rate of PTSD but vegoon bad.

Oh are we valuing life? Are we doing thought experiments of who gets to who lives and who doesn't? What a normal thing to do, lets go:

• 1000 kittens or hitler?
• 500 kittens or 500 hitlers?
• 100 kittens or 900 hitlers?
• 1 kitten or 1000 hitlers?

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• a palestinian dog or a palestinian man

.

• your family pet or your child?

• your family pet or your family home?

• your family pet or your childs college?

• your family pet or your family vacation?

• your family pet or one days worth of food?

• your family pet or your gaming pc?

• 100000000000 cows or one kitten?

and so on...

the answer of course is that it's all pure idealism and the framing is set up in a way that inevitably leads to white supremacist views

Even if you take an impossibly extreme view, like each human is worth 10 trillion cows, going vegan is still a moral imperative. I swear to fuck if any of you liberals agree with this reddit garbage I will pants you in public and everyone will laugh

”Unproductive discussions”

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That place is trash, but at least it makes me glad Hexbear doesn't allow antiveganism.

I agree with this decision. It's far too easy for troll farms to sow division in leftist spaces using these social justice stances.

lol

My lifetime earnings is worth less than 1000 trees. I think about that a lot.

This would only make sense if there was like a literal gun to a person's head and a dog's head or something. Which is a ridiculous scenario that would never happen. You can be against battery farming without putting human lives at risk (in fact you'd actually save a lot of lives since battery farmed animals are responsible for antibiotic resistance and a massive vector for disease).

"I think human life is more important than the life of a non-human animal" sure, you can hold that opinion without resorting the ridiculous hyperbole. At least present a reasonable argument for that point.

Basically

GAHH! Even if you agree with the premise, are a 100% anthropocentric asshole, and assign no value to animal life: you should still be vegan!

One life worth thousands of animals? So what will they say when billions of non-human land animals are killed over the course of a year? If they were serious (which they're deeply not,) this would be tragedy to them even if the life of each non-human animal were worth ten thousand less.

Is r/leftist one of the subs that got taken over by ACP goons? It would make some sense

Damn you beat me to posting this!

You cannot truly separate organism from ecology! This isn't a math equation! Even if we're going to be lazy and ignore the moral questions here, thousands of suffering animals will unavoidably, inevitably have impact on the quality of human lives. The sheer volume of ammonia, methane, and shit all concentrated in a single factory farm. All that byproduct has to go somewhere! It's effect is felt for miles, distorting and altering everything; the soil content, the plants, the insects, the contents of the water table, the very breathability of the air! And that's just the obvious stuff. Lazy! Lazy lazy thinking!

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