Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
Yes, obviously, what Israel is now doing is in no way defensive but taking their dishonest framing and directly rejecting it is good too.
israel doesn't even have the right to exist
No country has a right to exist
People have a right to exist
Countries do not.
After WWII the allies dismantled Nazi Germany and Japan because the whole world was like "you don't get to exist." Not like that anyway.
Zionist propagandists try to force the repetition of that line "Israel has a right to exist... Israel has a right to defend itself..." so that people never question it or rather can't question it (they become children and start calling you names if you do). It's just more bullshit and they always tie the state of Israel back to "the Jews" broadly, across the world. As if saying "Israel doesn't have a right to exist" is the same as "Jews don't have a right to exist." Obviously it is not the same. Not even in the same realm. Like if I said Vatican City doesn't have a right to exist no one would assume I meant "genocide all the Catholics!" I mean the entire thing is just moronic. Ethnostates are fucking bad.
Let's be honest here: at least half of Nazi Germany didn't get dismantled.
Denazification but only enough for plausible deniability
My absolute favorite is to hit them with even more religious bullshit. "As a devout Catholic I cannot deny Jesus of Nazareth is the rightful King of Israel and his kingdom will reign through the hearts of all; it transcends borders, language and culture. To acknowledge another Israel would be against the practice of the church."
papistry 
I'd stay away from using catholic doctrine to justify opposition to Zionism.
Like, the material is absolutely there, but that's mainly because for the last thousand years it was the primary ideological basis for European antisemitism.
Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.
liberal discourse about "rights" always misses the point anyway. Israel has always used the idea that it guarantees more "democratic rights" than the surrounding Arab states as evidence that it has 
SVPERIOR CVLTVRE 
etc. etc.
Israel has the power to defend itself. Where does it get that power? From the imperial core states (especially NATO/EU members) pouring money into it. Why do they do that? Because settler colonies are forward operating bases for imperial core capitalists. You can set up a situation where people have "equal rights" on paper, but in practice, violence decides what the actual material conditions are. Segregation in the united states always claimed to be "separate but equal" even as black people were made to suffer systemic discrimination (and continue to be made to suffer obviously)
thinking about those videos of huge crowds of settlers at Ben Gurion queueing to flee to where their other passport is from
my opinion about israel is the same as my opinion about the US 
marg bar, as the kids say
The way our ghouls are behaving about this, it's gonna be hard to say we don't deserve whatever 
happens next
Unlimited 9/11s on the first world
Unlimited 10/7s on the Zionist entity
Unlimited 1/6s on dork libs
It's a fun thing to say, I'm sure. But it honestly upsets me to see others so willingly and happily wish death upon others. I don't actually wish death on anyone, it's just a sad and unfortunate necessity because oppressors like Israel and the US make it the only means of self-defence.
i agree the "1000 october 7s" aka 1.2 million dead people part is concerning me a bit, even if it's hyperbole. like, we can recognize violence is often a necessary means to liberation without rooting for maximum violence?
It's a cope. The necessary violence is really hard psychologically, people loop around to becoming hyperviolent as a way to deal with it.
i agree the "1000 october 7s" aka 1.2 million dead people
dead settlers
no more half measures walter
To me the true tragedy is if Mesopotamia and the Levant formed into one nation like the Arabs in the area wanted, we would have Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine all as one nation. Even if 7 million Jews moved there, they would not be able to dominate their partitioned region. The colonial mandates of the late 19th century and early 20th century is what caused this violence, now we’re just going to live it out until the status quo can eventually change. May the communists win this century
It always goes back to the British 
if your opinion about israel is anything other than "death to israel, infinite october 7s on the settlers until palestine is free from the river to the sea", fuck you, your bloodline, and all your dead homies
This is a centrist position
I thought 'bloodline' implied enough relatives to qualify for an acceptable party line
From every river to every sea Palestine will be free
From the Nile to the Pacific 
Two things I hate are colonialism and the influence of American Evangelical eschatology on geopolitics. Guess where both overlap
From the river to the sea!
Bring back downvotes because jesus christ, this thread isn't doing anything except wasting anima into terminally online , self-righteous navel gazing. Listen OP, I have had to grapple and coming to terms with America massacring millions of my people but signing every one of your posts and comments with "death to America" regardless of how just it might be in intent or how you mean it, simply comes across as provocatively inflammatory and trying to get rise out of others. If someone acted like you posted, I'd think they were a fed, or they were a late teen channelling some other source of repent energy into this. Its a red flag either way, and I'm not sure at all what it does. No Palestinians or Middle Easterners I know have the opinion you quoted, even as aggrieved as they are.
nah it's not really that deep. i just fuckin hate america
Death to America
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