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[–] D61@hexbear.net 50 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Putin went to war not to gain territory but to crush Ukrainian independence and bring it back into the Russian sphere of influence. But Ukraine, like Finland after Stalin’s attempted invasion of 1939-40, remains an independent and viable state. The loss of 20 per cent of its territory is painful but not fatal.

jagoff

[–] miz@hexbear.net 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

to crush Ukrainian independence

the opposite of the truth, USA did the 2014 coup to replace the guy who wanted to stay independent. the problem was NATO vassalage not independence (and you can even see this laid out plainly in Russian diplomacy in late 2021 but it doesn't matter because you don't own a newspaper)

Putin went to war not to gain territory but to crush Ukrainian independence

They've been saying he wants to conquer all of ukraine, nay all of Europe, this entire time

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

attempted invasion

I wonder why western writers never mention how the war turned out and just focus on glorifying extremely dubious epic Finnish war hero stats. Sure is a mystery.

Did they also comment on Stalin’s attempted invasion of Germany?

[–] RomCom1989@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Only 20% territory loss

Not great,not terrible

[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

devastated the Russian economy and isolated it diplomatically ... Putin has turned his country into a vassal of the Chinese empire.

They're isolated and subordinates of the Chinese Empire? Interesting.

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

international-community-1international-community-2 russia has isolated itself diplomatically from the majority of the world (countries marked in green)

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 30 points 3 days ago

That whole framing is doubly funny because even if that was the case, Russia's other option was to become subordinates of the US empire.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

all this shit could've been avoided if not for the imperialist demons in NATO

this article is still incredibly naive and imperialist brained in the last third

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, the cope at the end is pretty funny. I especially loved them still trying to peddle isolated Russia narrative.

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The isolationist BRICS coalition (don't look up population, please)

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nonwhites don’t count as people sweaty (Russians aren’t white anymore)

[–] TrustedFeline@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

It was joever before it started

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Actually, Ukraine won and is taking its ball and going home smug-explain

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

looking forward to NED setting up a government in exile in the metaverse

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 days ago

how is that real 🤣

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

Honestly surprised they didn't make a scarecrow out of Navalny's corpse and say that was the president-in-exile

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Step away from the goddamned lathe, Yog

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 days ago
[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Surely the GHost of Kiev has been helping them win!

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

10,000,0000,000,000 Ruzzians killed!

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Damn that's pretty shameful on Europe's part considering the Russians are all untrained conscripts getting obliterated 10:1 and stealing washing machines instead of fighting.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bro what happened, I thought resurgent Ukranian forces were descending upon the Russians every 48 hours????

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

Critical support to America on its protracted war against Europe

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

The Telegraph supported Boris' plays back in the early stages of the war that dragged it out this long instead of ending it way back. Having them admit defeat like this is a significant milestone.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

The incessant childish whining throughout this piece makes it almost impossible to get through