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Preloading File Explorer in Windows 11 Doubles RAM Usage, Offers Minimal Speed Boost (www.techpowerup.com)
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[โ€“] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's crazy to me that I'm recommending 32GB RAM systems to everyone now because I regularly get alerts for a good chunk of machines that hit close to 16GB usage.

My Linux desktop boots so fast and I can't tell ya how much ram on boot but I'm pretty sure it's still less than 2GB ๐Ÿ˜‚

Windows is like 6 or 7 easy.

[โ€“] deltapi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

The IoT edition of Windows 11 runs in 4GB ram and performs ok. I don't recommend more ram, I recommend either Linux or LTSC IoT.

[โ€“] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 51 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

What the headline doesn't say: It tested nearly double as slow as Windows 10's File Explorer with this RAM usage increase.

Windows is getting worse. Not better.

[โ€“] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I'll never understand why file explorers are so resource intensive and so slow. they're getting a list of file names, maybe pulling a thumbnail from cache. they don't need to read the metadata of every file in the folder you're looking at, certainly not before displaying a list of files.

macos finder is even worse. i am often pausing for multiple seconds at the "file -> open" dialog

I would like to use a file explorer which tries to be as lightweight as "ls -lF"

[โ€“] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Microsoft: "What was that? You want CoPilot integrated so it can search through your files for data mining.....I mean helping you find stuff?"

[โ€“] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

imagine using a cloud-based AI to do the same thing as mlocated

[โ€“] Toes@ani.social 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

They should just rollback to windows xp and patch the security issues. It happily ran on 128MB of ram.

[โ€“] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

But how else will you type an installed app name into the start menu and have it open Microsoft edge with shitty search results?

[โ€“] mlg@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

They sort if did this with Windoes Vista, but instead of fixing issues, they just removed a ton of vulnerable code, which resulted in a bunch of dropped features lol.

[โ€“] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 23 points 20 hours ago

You know what would really solve this issue?

That's right! Adding AI (read: LLM) to it!

[โ€“] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

This is one area where I will agree with MS. 32 MB extra RAM consumption is worth it for even a moderate speed boost.

That being said, the vast majority of modern applications run like shit. You have electron apps which are comically terrible in their performance metrics, but even beyond that you often have apps takeing up 100s of MBs and eating up a stupid amount of RAM considering what they do.

[โ€“] morgenman@lemmy.world 26 points 21 hours ago

Yea the damn start menu is an electron app now. Ffs where did we go wrong?

[โ€“] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 15 hours ago

I also agree, but ... it's an attitude that gets you in trouble fast and it only works once. Throwing hardware at a problem never works for very long, and hardly ever gets you the order of magnitude increases that reevaluated algorithms and data structures will get you. No amount of hardware gets you past an O(n^2) for long.

[โ€“] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Making desktop applications has become a nightmare in anything but C or C# and that isn't exactly a language people really want to be programming in these days. That is a big part of the problem there aren't good GUI bindings for a lot of languages and most programmers nowadays have been building websites and working with GUI APIs is a huge step back.

Everyone is preferring server/web solutions now as its easier to charge customers for it and keep it up to date and the knock on consequence is desktop app support isn't great or considered important.

[โ€“] IonTempted@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It might be one of those placebo feelings, but I think my PC is running slightly worse and I'm working on a video right now I need to edit with Premiere so I'm thinking of formatting my PC, I haven't done so in many years.

[โ€“] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

If you reformat, look into 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC. massgrave.dev

[โ€“] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I mean, Premiere is known to be a buggy mess. I have no idea why companies still force people to use it when Resolve exists. Good luck to you sir.

[โ€“] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If you are not forced to use premiere then use Davinci resolve and if you think it's good and still worried about performance you might want to try Linux. Though you should do it only if not satisfied with your current system

[โ€“] orclev@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Resolve has some quirks on Linux. In particular it doesn't support certain codecs.

[โ€“] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Really? I never heard of it but at the same time i didn't really used it

[โ€“] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I don't use windows unless it's for work, but I'll use https://windowsxlite.com/

I have no idea if they can be trusted but my notebooks run great. I just don't store any personal information on it.

[โ€“] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I used to be an xlite fan, but have since discovered 11 IoT Enterprise LSTC. massgrave.dev

Same idea of bullshit free, but more stable and straight from M$, themselves. Defender and Edge ONLY.

Then install StartAllBack on top of that. Everything feels sane, and snappy and back to sanity.

[โ€“] nullroot@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I did windows 10 ltsc for a very long time but I dropped eventually because I was tired of having issues with my video card and random unexplained crashes with vague event viewer info they no one had find reliable fixes to. Mass grave seems super nifty though, saving that link, maybe I give 11 iot a try but I'm feeling pretty burnt

[โ€“] nullroot@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I love/hate their website. It reminds me of early 00 warez sites, but, as you say and testers report, it does a good job debloating and speeding things up. I'm so fed up with windows at this point I'm not sure a slimmed down and or privacy focused windows install will cut it. I'm this close to taking the dive and going to daily driving Linux.

[โ€“] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago

See my comment above yours, its really such a refreshing Windows experience, it feels like the good old days.