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NEW YORK (AP) — Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. personally directed the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to update its website to contradict its longtime guidance that vaccines don’t cause autism, he told The New York Times in an interview published Friday.

His comments provide clarity into who directed the CDC’s website change, after many current and former staffers at the agency were surprised to see new published guidance on Wednesday that defies scientific consensus. Kennedy, a longtime vaccine critic, has upended the public health agencies he oversees and pushed for and enacted changes that have unsettled much of the medical community, which sees his policies as harmful for Americans.

“The whole thing about ‘vaccines have been tested and there’s been this determination made,’ is just a lie,” Kennedy said in the interview, which was conducted Thursday.

The CDC’s “vaccine safety” page now claims that the statement “vaccines do not cause autism” is not based on evidence because it doesn’t rule out the possibility that infant vaccines are linked to the disorder. The page also has been updated to suggest that health officials have ignored studies showing a potential link.

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[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 104 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

“The whole thing about ‘vaccines have been tested and there’s been this determination made,’ is just a lie,”

This moron
is a danger to people.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 23 points 4 months ago

It starts with the one at the top, who won't hire anyone smarter than he is because he's always wants to feel like he's the smartest person in the room. Really tells you something about all the MAGAts who voted for him because they think he's rich due to being so smart

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 17 points 4 months ago

"I am also having my office produce an 'I did that' sticker for myself by way of totally driving the point home, in case anyone has any doubts."

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 2 points 4 months ago

No, it's all shit. Bullshit.

MAGA: Making America Gross Again.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 43 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm beginning to think that the USA is in real trouble

[–] pfc_hudson@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To reiterate, no shit!

It began when he came down the escalator.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If that guy could win a presidential election, the trouble began much earlier.

It did, with Gwen Stefani on The Voice.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

beginning??

have you been in a coma the last nine years?

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean in a more immediate and in-the-face way

You know how things die slowly, then all at once?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

it's definitely collapsing, been going on for awhile too.

ICE dissappearing people...saw that happen to some random kid on the streets of boston at the exact same time as the yuppies were doing their much publicized No Kings marches. (i imagine the powers that be in these cities are basically greenlighting ICE to go ham, long as they stay out of the richest neighborhoods).

because everyones just kind of coping on this idea that everything will return to normal (normal here being completely unsustainable ratfucking) when trump dies...personally i dont see it.

these motherfuckers said themselves they won't be removed peacefully.

and while i briefly entertained the idea of helping the good guys...tbh, to me it doesn't look like the US wants to be saved, and as anyone who has experience extending their help to strangers can tell you...you can't help someone who doesn't even think they have a problem.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Nine? This goes back to Nixon era!

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well, that it took you this long to figure that out seems an apt demonstration of why we're here.

EDIT: Geez - you guys can't tell when someone's going along with the joke, can you?

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 37 points 4 months ago

Really? Here I thought it came from the scientists, not the insane guy put in charge

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 27 points 4 months ago

The CDC’s “vaccine safety” page now claims that the statement “vaccines do not cause autism” is not based on evidence because it doesn’t rule out the possibility that infant vaccines are linked to the disorder.

This dumbfuck doesn't understand that science can't fully rule anything out. That's why science continues to evolve, and things we once thought were true change over time as we get more evidence.

Science explains what we see in the world, it doesn't magically explain every possible outcome of every possible thing we look at.

No shit you can't "rule out the possibility", because you can't have an omnipotent view of every possible way every chemical reaction occurs ever between any infant and any vaccine.

What we can do, is look at how vaccines and autism rates are correlated, engage in numerous studies, and find out that there is no observable causal link between the two, or even a statistically significant correlation. That is the closest we can possibly get to "ruling it out."

You wanna know what there is an observable causal link for? Viruses killing people that would otherwise not have gotten sick from the virus had they gotten the vaccine.

Jfc we are so cooked as a nation.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 months ago

Announcement that Tylenol causes autism, Sept 25th.

Nov 10th. Tylenol does not cause autism study comes out.

Nov. 25th Kimberly Clark to aquire Tylenol.

Huh. Not saying there is anything to this, but.... Huh.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

He is personally responsible for all the deaths that he causes.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 months ago

Not a very funny one.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Oh good. Forget the brilliant folks doing their best to watch out for humanity using the accumulated knowledge of what we've learned, Bobby's going to wing it.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Don't lie rfk. We know the worms in control.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did he? Or was it the worm?

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He's more worm than man now

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

The worm raised RFK's IQ by a few points.

[–] sickday@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

I see. This must be The Golden Path

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Well yeah, obviously. It clearly didn't come from anyone with any medical knowledge.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Using what? ChatGPT and a Ouija board?

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

Great shit for brains is refusing to understand science again

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Yeah, we know. It has his stupid all over it.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He personally is not healthy.

Don't take health advice from sick people.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

This is the way, back in 2002 I realized Dr Phil was full of shit. He would bring on 5 or 6 fat women, and do a show on losing weight.

They're taking weight loss advice from 350lbs Dr Phil.

[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hoping American voters change this with next midterms. It’s up in o every American voter.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Unless he commits a crime, RFK serves as long as Trump is in office and wants him there.

Trump won't be removed in the midterms. He's in until 2028 (well, early 2029).

You might


probably will


get Democrats taking the House and being able to launch investigations into some Trump administration stuff after the midterms. But they can't remove RFK.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Technically there are no legal ways to remove him. Plenty of ways he could be removed via illegal means, or through him being stupid wouldn't put it passed him eating roadkill and dieing of the black death.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Depends on whether a distraction will encourage them to sit it out.

Again.

[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Why don't you direct your person right in front of a bus. Don't look at Dr. Oz behind the curtain who knows deep down it's most likely from an increasingly toxic environment full of chemicals but is too entranced by the grift.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

He will do as the brain worm commands