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[–] ryokimball@infosec.pub 167 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They are outright admitting their orders are unlawful?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Nah.

Their rationale starts with the belief that all of Trump's orders are lawful, because he's the president and a president can do anything.

So their issue would be that saying that isn't true, is unlawful.

Which is obviously hypocritical because they acted like Biden and Obama were Stalin and Mao level authoritarians and multiple sherrifs and other red state officials flat out refused to follow orders from the Fed.

By their logic now, all those people shouldve been hung.

But when Trump's out of office they'll change their tune again

[–] Red0ctober@lemmy.world 54 points 6 days ago (5 children)

If it weren't for double standards, the Republicans would have none whatsoever

[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Our standards are the best, folks. They're so good, they call them, you know what they call them? I know you know, the lying media knows, but folks they call them "double standards". Can you believe it? Standards so good they're double. And listen, when we put America First, our standards will triple, even quadruple.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

God damnit, I could hear that comment.

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[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Their rationale starts with the belief that all of Trump’s orders are lawful, because he’s the president and a president can do anything.

To be fair, the supreme court recently said exactly that. We literally have a king now.

[–] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 22 points 6 days ago

They are outright admitting their orders are unlawful.

FIFU

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

They're markedly leaving that word out when they discuss this.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 136 points 6 days ago (15 children)

The fuck is wrong with Americans?

If any other president had said the things he said over the past couple of months, the country would have exploded and a president either legally or through mass protest removed from office.

What's so special about this orange nutjob?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I wish I could fucking tell you. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 24 points 6 days ago

It's been the downfall of empires before, and America isnt anything special. Just unchecked and unchallenged humans greed and corruption taking its next logical steps.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There have been tons of massive protests, the average American doesn't support this crap and they're doing what they can

The question should be the fuck is wrong with America's police officers, service members, judges, and lawmakers and other elected officials

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He doesn't care about your protests. He literally created a video of himself shitting on them and declaring himself king. It works in functioning democracies, but walking down the street with a sign will not stop a fascist intent on absolute power.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What’s so special about this orange nutjob?

Nothing, really. He's not doing anything other piece of trash authoritarians haven't done before. And he's not doing it as effectively as many of them did.

What's special is that we live in a country whose populace is so ignorant and hateful that a high enough percentage of the population supports this basic ass bitch because he says basic ass hateful shit that he has remained protected by them.

The issue isn't Trump. Our society could have easily kept him just a whiny little rich bitch like all the other whiny little rich bitches. The issue is our society because we didn't.

Believe me. There is nothing special about this loser.

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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

He has done it so much and gotten away with it, it's been normalized.

January 6th (aka, the insurrection) should have been a wake up call for everyone. A lot of people don't care about their country or God or whatever else they claim. Many just care about community.

[–] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

A country full of stupid, small-minded, selfish, arrogant, angry, racist, misogynists elect a stupid, small-minded, selfish, arrogant, angry, racist, misogynist... How could this have happened?

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Nothing is special about Trump. The American people are special. I know cause I'm one of them. Fuck this place. I love my country but fuck this place and all the narcissistic scumbags that live here.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

We are bathed in a Douglas Adams SEP field.

No one will do anything if is or might be Someone Else's Problem.

it's a bad combination of lazy, cowardly

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 101 points 6 days ago (2 children)

When is the majority of this country going to grasp that we are dealing with an actual, real life traitor?

Is it going to be one of those things where it isn't generally recognized until way after the fact when historians/teachers/students are studying the time period?

It's pretty fucking obvious.

He INCITECD AN INSURRECTION. He is ADVOCATING FOR HANGING POLITICIANS FOR ADHERING TO THE CONSTITUTION.

[–] unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe when he sets off a nuke in Chicago … but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

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[–] oppy1984 73 points 6 days ago

The only people who would get mad about telling the troops to refuse illegal orders, are the people who plan to issue illegal orders.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 60 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Trump: “Hang them for sedition!”

Commentator: “That is of course nonsense. The President doesn’t have the authority to …”

Supreme court: “As the President is a sovereign, he has absolute authority to issue death sentences for any reason” (6-3 majority)

[–] ProfThadBach@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Yeap and there go. Buy ammo ladies and gentlemen.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago

Quiet, piggy.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For context:

Half a dozen members of Congress who previously served in the military or intelligence community are urging service members and intelligence officials to disobey illegal orders that might be issued by President Donald Trump’s administration. Democratic lawmakers Sen. Elissa Slotkin, Sen. Mark Kelly, Rep. Jason Crow, Rep. Maggie Goodlander, Rep. Chris Deluzio and Rep. Chrissy Houlahan said the “threats to our Constitution” are coming “from right here at home,” and repeatedly urged the military and intelligence community to “refuse illegal orders.”

The video was posted on twitter, but I'm attaching it below.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 27 points 6 days ago
[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

I pray every day I see his obituary

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago

and Dems need to tone down their violent rhetoric btw

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (1 children)

if they had balls every dem politicians who could run for next election should say that they will pardon anyone who gets arrested or in trouble for disobeying illegal orders.

[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Set aside Dems for a moment. When will the media give any of these scandals any deserving attention? Bush, Obama, Biden got raked by the media for weeks for the slightest misspeak

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 14 points 6 days ago

They obviously won't... All the American media outlets are being consolidated under right wing ownership. To the extent we ever had fair reporting, that's over.

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[–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (5 children)

drump is going to get what mussolini got if we keep heading in this direction

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago

He's already deserved it for a long time now.

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

And Reddit banned me for 7 days when I said this dude should get the death penalty.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago

If you haven't noticed yet, that's because it is a tool of the regime that exists to pacify and propagandize its enormous userbase.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Everyday I ask myself how the democrats failed to have his ass in prison immediately. We all saw him committing sedition on tv! They also literally had a mountain of evidence he trafficked and raped children. How do the democrats always fail the simplest task to hold anyone accountable?

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

But boy howdy should they have.

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

So here we are...

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Trump is a cartoon villain who should have nothing to do with serious matters. He should be gone. J.D. Vance scares me way more than Trump though, and he'd be the next mole to pop up after Orange Julius Caesar.

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[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Just more sensationalism to keep everyone’s mind off the Epstein files if you ask me.

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 14 points 6 days ago

Might want to check yourself there Blowjob Rosenberg

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He is afraid that people explain to the military the current state of the law? Like he hoped he could order them to do illegal things, and they would compüly, not knowing any better?

BTW: The Nuremberg trials started on this day 80 years ago. I hope you guys prepare your version of it then Trump is over.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

krasnov out here trying to build a bigger distraction

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

If anyone should be getting hanged for anything, it's Pedonald for all of his many crimes, including plotting a coup while stoking an insurrection.

But it's always projection with the conservatives.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and right wing lunatics.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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