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Lancer is a configuration of the Gladiator Anti-Grav Tank used by Primaris Space Marines in the Warhammer 40,000 universe. Mirroring the design of the standard Space Marine Predator Tank, the Gladiator is built upon an APC chassis and comes in a handful of different configurations that each specialize in fighting against particular kinds of enemy units. The Gladiator Lancer functions primarily as a long-range artillery piece specializing in targeting heavily armoured vehicles and monsters.

A Lancer's primary armament is the Lancer Laser Destroyer. The laser destroyer is a devastatingly powerful directed energy weapon developed prior to the Great Crusade, over ten-thousand years prior to the 40k setting. It originally came in two variations, the Heavy Laser Destroyer that was the main arm of the Destroyer Tank Hunter and Laser Destroyer Arrays that were used as sponson weapons on the Fellblade Super-Heavy Tank. These used to be commonplace armaments but millennia of infrastructure decay and lost knowledge had left few facilities in the Imperium capable of even repairing existing Laser Destroyer weaponry, let alone manufacturing new ones. Although not directly addressed ~~on the wiki~~ in the lore this is presumably not the case with Lancer Laser Destroyers, which are downsized and less powerful than the Heavy Laser Destroyers and less complicated than the Laser Destroyer Arrays and therefore seemingly easier to produce and deploy in force. While it is less powerful than its ancient predecessors, the Gladiator Lancer is still a force to be reckoned with and is one of the most powerful units fielded by the Space Marines in terms of pure destructive capability.

On the Tabletop (mildly crunchy)

The Gladiator Lancer was first introduced as a deployable unit in WH40k 9th Edition, and remains available in 10th edition (the current edition). As would be expected, the in-game version of the Gladiator Lancer is also a long-range artillery piece specializing in taking down heavily armoured enemy vehicles and monsters. In both editions the Lancer Laser Destroyer has a massive range of 72", allowing it to target nearly any unit on the standard 44"x60" field of play as long as it has line of sight, and has very high Strength, Armour Penetration, and Damage characteristics while only being able to fire 2 shots per Shooting Phase. Even with its powerful stat-line, the Gladiator Lancer is point efficient to field. Standard competitive WH40K armies have a point limit of 2000, and the Gladiator Lancer costs only 120 points in 9th edition and 160 points in 10th edition.

It would be easy to assume that a Powerful, Cost Effective Unit would be make it a mainstay of competitive Space Marine army lists... but with the Gladiator Lancer that's not the case (at least in 10th edition I'm sooo not dedicated enough to go searching for 9th edition top 4 finishes). Space Marines often suffer from a glut of available unit options, and 10th edition is no exception. The Gladiator Lancer sees competition with the Ballistus Dreadnought, Vindicator Battle Tank, and even its smaller cousin the Predator Annihilator.

Both the Ballistus Dreadnought and Vindicator Battle Tank see heavy play in competitive Space Marine armies, compared to the middling play the Gladiator Lancer sees.

While the Ballistus Lascannon is weaker than the Lancer Laser Destroyed in almost every regard, its 48" is still large enough to cover a large portion of the battlefield and its statline still leaves it effective as an anti-armour artillery piece. What really makes the Ballistus Dreadnaught a more powerfull piece is it also has long range anti-infantry capabilities with its Ballistus Missile Launcher, which can fire frag missiles to take out globs of enemy infantry. The Ballistus Dreadnaught also has its reasonably strong Armoured Feet as a melee weapon for any melee infantry that manage to close the distance to it. At 150 points, the Ballistus Dreadnaught is weaker as a dedicated anti-armour artillery piece but its versatility makes it edge out the Gladiator Lancer.

The Vindicator Battle Tank, strictly speaking, does not fulfill the same role as long range artillery due to it only having a 24" range on its Demolisher Cannon. That being said, the similarities of the Demolisher Cannon to the Lancer Laser Destroyer I think are hard to overlook when talking about the glut of similar units in Space Marine armies and how they play into competitive choices. The Demolisher Cannon has only one less Armour Penetration than the Lancer Laser Destroyer and has the same strength. It does a pretty significant amount less damage, dealing only 1d6 damage vs the Laser Destroyer's 1d6 + 3, but the Demolisher Cannon makes up for this by having a massive 1d6 + 3 attacks which gives it devastating damage potential against not only vehicles, monsters, and standard infantry but also against heavily armoured elite infantry.

Both the Ballistus Dreadnought and Vindicator Battle tank see much more play in competitive lists than the Lancer Gladiator, with some armies even taking both Ballistus Dreadnoughts and Vindicator Battle Tanks. The Lancer's otherwise strong profile being overshadowed in such a way showcases just one example of many of the problem Space Marine armies have with being oversaturated in models, a situation born from Games Workshop constantly pushing new kits for popular army in order to sell more plastic despite potential negative affects to the game itself. Weeee capitalism.

Oh also there's a type of Imperial Ceratus Knight called the Lancer, because it has a shock lance. Not really talking about those because, despite them being giant robots, I think the Ceratus Knights are kinda lame and aren't as cool as the other Knights and Titans. Anti-shoutout to the Ceratus Knight Lancer.

So, uh, yeah, that's Lancer I guess. I'd love to hear about everyone's favourite tanks in sci-fi and fantasy!


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[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As it turns out, I can't tolerate sub-zero temperatures for long without appropriate clothing. How tragic. I'm even typing slowly cause my fingers are freezing.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

My hands are clearly the weak point. I need to train them.

[–] Arahnya@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Ive always been the type to stay guarded and keep myself safe from the opinions that may be directed at me. Ive said, no one will ever understand me and no one will ever come close (this is not true ofc) but I feel it is partially true to some degree; I know that the way I experience life is not well understood, & so I keep myself guarded still. Yet also open, and blunt. I will tell you who I am, but I won't argue. Not anymore at least!

I used to be lonelier, more insecure, and I wonder what has changed because my social life is nearly the same. Now the longing for connection has been turned into a dream. Maybe, someday -- but if its not right now, that's okay. I am content ☺️

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bar so low that (only) a few bad hours a day is "better" and "I'm doing good"

Which tbh is a big improvement especially over some parts of the last year. But it definitely is hard to explain idk. Sorry if I still post like I'm completely miserable 100% of the time.

reasons and thingsI think its probably pretty obvious but I think a lot of my issues lately has been other people and transphobia and all that and I really don't know how it will ever be okay

Like we're a social species, right? And most people suck complete ass. How is that not going to be super distressing?

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[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

reminder that if you like trans men then you like men

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oof was someone in your life saying something like that?? Yeah I like men but especially trans men but thats more about T4T stuff

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

no just a common thing we see around :p

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

hot take but using the stolen labor machine 3000 is a bad thing, actually

and no "the orphan mulcher has already been built so i may as well toss an orphan in" is not a good argument

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[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm looksmaxxing but I take the L and turn it into a B doggirl-smug

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

the nice thing about megathreads is comments dont show up on all like posts do, so i dont have to deal with random cis people interacting with me

like,,,, i guess they technically do but like,,, way more traffic there, and nobody is looking at fucking comments on all

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

I hadn’t considered that, and that’s a really good point.

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

(me wishing i was emo at 13 years old) i'm not in pain

i don't know where you got that info from but it's false

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I was in high school I used to try to impress girls by eating an apple in one go... Anyway still a virgin ty for coming to my Tedtalk

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Looks like they were all destined to be doctors

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

One of them was the valedictorian wouldn't be surprised at least

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[–] RION@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Doctor said I can do cypionate and prescribed me...

0.25 mL weekly at 5mg/mL. So 1.25mg every week. Which looks like this.

So is everyone providing HRT in the US just full of shit?

I think my plan is to bail on cypionate and ask her to switch back to valerate, then just inject that at a higher frequency until I can get DIY set up

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So is everyone providing HRT in the US just full of shit?

yes

but also you can just use more of the vial, they give you wayyyy more than you use in their allotted timelimit (which is bs)

if you are going to be using a vial for a long period, get smaller gauge needles, large gauges will lead to cored vials

[–] RION@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Okay I'll try that. Thank you for the responses you've been making to this stuff with me the past couple of weeks. I have maybe like 5 people in my circle IRL I could safely talk to about this and none of them have first hand experience, so it's meant a lot to have you and everyone else on here guiding me.

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

if you have any questions feel free to ask/shoot a dm :3 this is kinda my special interest (tho my knowledge of certain things like undecylate is limited)

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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I switched to injections (EV) after 3 months of pills, I think they started me at like 5mg/wk (which got me to 347 pg/ml @ around day 5-6 after injection). Lowered the dose from there.

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[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wtf are syringes and needles I am so confused, there are so many different things to worry about I'm going crazy

I use the exact same stuff I use at work. 19g non coring blunt needles, 25g inch to half inch needles. I use the same supplies because I just requisition my supplies from work lol.

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

is this a genuine question or are you being sarcastic

if its genuine i can write up a thing after i do my injection

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm jokingly exaggerating, but am actually confused.

I went looking for info but all of the standards on hrtcafe are for the US, so some stuff is different when I look up listings, like if I search for 25g needles there are none, but I could find a 24g one, but the other measurements are too short when I convert to mm.

Then there's like a whole waste thing I gotta worry about I guess, and those different syringes are like 20x the price, except insulin ones that come with a fixed needle, which apparently are less wasteful, but then can I actually use those? Should I use those?

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you can use insulin needles yea. they are nice, dont gotta worry about deadspace.

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, and they seem pretty cheap. I found one that's 29g 1/2", I guess that would work for subq, from the numbers I found. But since the needle is fixed, is drawing going to work ok?

Yes it's fine to draw and inject with an insulin needle/syringe like that. Diabetics do it all the time.

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

yep! wouldnt exist otherwise x3

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[–] shallot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Insulin pins are fine, that’s what I’ve been using. I think the only reason I’d use something else would be if I was using ampoules and needed a filtered drawing needle.

Mine are 27G (0.41 mm), 1/2” (12.7 mm), 1/2 cc (0.5 mL) for subQ if that helps at all. (For EEn at 40 mg/mL)

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I found a pretty similar one, 26g, probably going to grab that one.

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago

Nice! I bet that’ll work out just fine :)

Btw I felt the same way trying to figure this part out.

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Thank you to everyone who replied, figuring out options and what works can be a little stressful and confusing. I saved a few options and I'll buy it when the more important part arrives

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago

you know a lot of video creators will like fail to properly parse a sentence or a word and make a joke out it and im sitting here like "holy shit these people literally cant read"

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm suddenly remembering that time when I was young and made a whole story in my head where the teenage protagonist had a part time job and used to money to secretly live a double life as ... a girl. Like a regular ass girl.

The kinds of things egg me would think of ... nuts.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I wrote so much gender erotica, I looked back at some and I really focused on like chipped nail polish. Not like sexy stuff πŸ€¦β€β™€οΈ

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

kinkvoyeurism is just cucking

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

I think there's a meme going on in my town about some club that does not exist but has pretty good reviews. It's just an empty lot but fuck me I wanna go check it out now. Part of me is wondering if this is purposely made or a possible hiccup from bots online making shit up either way it's less than a mile from my house

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

long time ago, and on an alt account, i used to do a few big effort posts in the transmega, in the 2k plus comment per week days. i find it so fucking funny that me just posting i’m a top and i’m horny got more feedback than most of those posts. theory-gary

never change, trans mega

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

so whatsapp just had a massive data scrape using the same system telegram uses for the contact bullshit i was complaining about, so maybe they will remove it (they wont)

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Online training course called me a power user, I proceeded to do 5 courses because of that. Maybe that was the plan all along but damn does it feel good to learn stuff. I would have done more but my hour of computer was up at the library and they closed for lunch. This shit is the kind of garbage neoliberals would salivate for "local poor educates themselves and gets out of poverty" all I need now is some powerful group to make sure I actually get a job after all this.

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

hour of computer was up at the library

down with capitalism

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Agreed it's not like the computers are filled all the time still I lock tf in and I'm proud of what I've accomplished today

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Been reading how not to age and it's got me thinking yes I would like to live a long time and as well as I can, I feel like I wasted my 20s being depressed and and shit so if I can turn back the clock with lifestyle changes yes please.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't smoke, don't drink alcohol, cut down on coffee, hydrate, eat well, lessen stress yadda yadda

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