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[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i like the idea of buying property as a hedge against the political superstructure that recognizes and affirms said property ownership as legitimate.

real 5-D chess moves from a powerful mind.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago

What if we just had a paramilitary organization embedded within the state that could opportunistically make use of the state's crisis to make even more money and suppress working class organization?

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 60 points 3 days ago (1 children)

US collapses. Dollar collapses. Banks require you to pay your loans anyway.

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

yeah, brave to assume the debt won't be pawned off to some unholy financial conglomerate made out of G*rmans and HKers

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You’re a millennial. You’re 40. You get a house with a 50 year mortgage. You pay it off until you die at 82. The bank keeps the house and the money. You beat the system somehow.

I guess the plan is for hyperinflation to hit and then you just pay it all off or something.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think they're suggesting that somehow the U.S. collapses before the term of that loan is up

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m dooming too hard, but I find it easier to believe that the US will collapse than that the banks will. This feels like a sign that maybe I need to go outside or something.

[–] zeca@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago

Depends on how it collapses. If through a revolution, you might keep you house and have your debt pardoned.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

But what if the bankers are all killed before you die?

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago

I will not fedpost

I will not fedpost

I will not fedpost

I will not fedpost

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The AI bankers will be dispatched to collect

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

mentions IQ

Nothing this guy says matters to me at all.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 30 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I didn't understand how this would be a leveraged short against the US government, but I'd like to know more!

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unless I'm missing something, the only way you make money is if the inflation rate exceeds the interest rate on your mortgage. A 50-year mortgage is not going to have a good interest rate. Also, it is unlikely that your wage is going to match inflation (although it will increase so e due to inflation and maybe if you build a career you'll have a higher paid job ofc, but that isn't directly relevant to the post). The only way this makes sense is if there's a few years of massive massive inflation that beats your 50yr mortgage's rate, and I you have enough stonks to generate a useful return so you can pay down your loan balance for the inflation kicks in. I suppose you could also refinance at that point as well to a shorter term.

It's not "120 IQ" it's the usual financial gaming/hedging/shorting and carries a fair amount of risk. I don't have much of any faith in the US/western real economy, but I also know "the house always wins".


The more conservative move (so you don't have to fret about finances) is:

  • Have a lot of money (of course)
  • put the money in your retirement stonks (mutual fund etc) targeting a ~5% return and just let it ride
  • take a mortgage on a reasonably priced home at the lowest interest rate you can afford
  • short terms (15 years) = lower rates (key being that it's below the 5%) = free money cause your stonks go up faster than your mortgage interest
  • if inflation kicks in, you can pay off the debt earlier cause your stonks will go up faster

If you pay it off early?

  • use excess funds to fund socialist activities or whatever
  • move to a nicer home that you can reasonably afford with equity in your old home, higher wages than when you were younger, and take another low interest short term mortgage
[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the obvious way to make money with this is

Take loan

Buy house

Rent house to someone

Pay loan with rent

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

That's it. What they're saying with this law is, that the US needs more landlords.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

Ah right, forgot about that one

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

Me neither, and I wouldn't take financial advice from a twice-stolen shitpost

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

$1 million USD now > $1 million USD after xi-button

As the borrower you get to have the $1m now, the lender gets the $1m + interest later.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The bet is that there will be hyperinflation soon (and that you won't have to default on the loan), devaluing the money you'd owe the bank.

I have my doubt though that a 50 year loan would have fixed interest rates rather than being index adjusted or something like that.

[–] drinkinglakewater@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Hyper inflation for the global reserve currency sure sounds like a good idea

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

global reserve currency

Not for long

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago

Yeah houses will be more affordable for a short while but prices will catch quickly and even if you buy early you still are buying house that won't last as long as the loan.

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago
  1. Buy house
  2. Fill it with deadly traps
  3. Wait for dollar to collapse
  4. Tell the repo men if they come inside they will lose a leg

Get affordable housing with this one neat trick

[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago

You're really not paying that much less monthly and it will cost 3 times the value of your home over the 50 year period. It's not getting more for less, it's less for less

[–] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Except longer term loans have higher interest rates so you'll be paying nearly the same per month anyway

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

That's my understanding, based on my current experience with a mortgage.

However, I don't know what my IQ is so I guess I can't speak on this.

[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

Also the limiting factor for most people getting a regular mortgage is the down payment and credit check, not the actual monthly payment. Unless you're rooming with 3 other people (and maybe even then) you'd likely spend less on a mortgage than your rent depending on where you live.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

More like screwing your kids over lol

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

well the joke here is that society collapses so I think that was priced in

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

straight up calling the reader stupid if they disagree is a convincing argument, yeah? tweets by genuine geniuses just hit different

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

(I wasn't sure if this shitpost should go in c/slop cuz I interpreted as making fun of sigma grindset dipshits, but perhaps they genuinely are one)

[–] mendiCAN@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

trying to reread it ironically... i'm stumped. i can see your read but if he's actually doing an irony it's spyplanin' over my head

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

Eh like the "UAE Exotic Falconry & Finance" shitposter but less obvious so it might actually get engagement from unironic finance sigma idiots

But again, perhaps I'm too optimistic

a guy who thinks IQ is real is confidently spouting nonsense? no way

[–] D61@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

Your house will decay into rubble... but your Mortgage? That is forever. peppino-suave

[–] Ishtar@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Every bit of that post is that cursed soulless unlife mortals call AI, from the background to the two paragraphs he had generated in "ChatGPT or maybe Grok". I have been observing with disgust.