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I don’t know who needs to hear this shit but I don’t give a fuck about any of these assholes any longer.
One party’s default is evil. The other aggressively leans towards cowardice.
Rand Paul isn't the one throwing a wrench in things, here. It's dirtbag Republicans deciding a budget bill is when they're going to try to kill the marijuana industry with an unrelated amendment to the bill.
It's an imaginary wrench, because it's still going to pass.
Boy, if only the spineless wimp dems didn't cave, Trump would be in a fucking panic right now with the ATC situation. Instead, they delivered him a win right before he would have felt the most squeeze.
Our only hope now is the release of the Epstein files. I hope they can prove trump was a client and his whole base turns on him. That's all I fucking want for Christmas.
So once again the democrats not only sold out their constituents on healthcare and snap for literally a “promise of a vote” but they shit on them even more by allowing regulation on thc products? This will not only hurt a huge sector of the economy but it will open the door for police to target minorities for minor drug possession.
This makes no fuckin sense.
This makes no fuckin sense
it will open the door for police to target minorities for minor drug possession.
The War on drugs and the police state spawned from it is bipartisan.
Hate is the key factor in all of this.
Adding this comment because it's very clear to me that most people have a really poor understanding of hemp-derived THC products in general.
Delta-8 THC is an unregulated cannabinoid that can be made by converting CBD through a chemical process. But hemp also contains Delta-9 THC, which is the same thing that would come in the recreational or medical cannabis you’d get in a legal state. The limitation is that the products are only allowed to contain up to 0.3% Delta-9 THC by volume. The funny workaround here is that products like edibles and drinks can easily still contain a recreational dose of Delta-9 THC while staying well below 0.3% THC by volume. This has created a legal market for THC products which this legislation is threatening.
I'll go one further for you.
Now there is THCa on the market that when you heat it - you know by smoking it or whatever your method of choice - literally turns into Delta-9 THC. Some light reading on it.
So there is this really odd legal gray area now. I think it should be abundantly clear by now that marijuana should just be fucking legal, it's readily available all over the place and it being illegal on the federal level is just dumb. It's safer than alcohol and we have ads for that shit shoved in our faces everywhere we go.
Adding to this that in some markets the unregulated and untested delta-8 products have found their way into places that sell products to kids, like convenience stores whereas the regulated stuff is sold in adults only locations. These delta 8 products threaten the legal market in some places.
This is of course avoiding the issues of improper extraction in the extract part of the market.
They need to do this but in a separate bill that is part of federal legalization of cannabis.
i saw a few delta-8 vending machines in Austin. no idea how they check id.
I just want to add this comment because it's being discussed, but Delta 8 is much stronger than advertised. I used to smoke everyday and got into dabs for awhile. I stopped cold turkey for years and bought a delta 8 gummy on a whim online because everyone said if you have bad experiences with weed then Delta 8 is the way to go. Let me tell you that shit fucked me up badly.
I was in for a relaxing night just chilling with my girl and watching some foreign horror movie. I had such a strong reaction to Delta 8 that I tried to just lay down and close my eyes. I could feel every word that was spoken in the movie in my chest and fingertips. It was one of the worst weed experiences I've ever had. It's so much stronger than advertised and I only ate half the gummy too. I didn't have to upload my ID or anything to get it. I'm 100% in favor of full legalization of basically everything and letting adults do whatever the fuck kind of drug they want to do so this isn't a post to sway anyone against weed or Delta 8. I just wanted to share my experience with it.
Weird, I need to eat like 3 gummies to even feel anything.
That's what I've heard from others too. I've had mixed experiences with CBD tincture also. They all say there's barely any THC in them, yet I do catch a buzz every once in awhile.
Another article I saw said that the rider adds such a strict requirement for THC content that 95% of the CBD sold in the U.S. would be made illegal.
Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) made the stakes clear Monday morning. There is only one “objector” to speeding up Senate consideration of the government funding package — Paul. The senator wants to strip a section from the bill that would prevent the sale of hemp-derived products like Delta-8 at gas stations, corner stores, or online without federal regulation.
Paul defended his stance as part of his duty to Kentucky. “Just to be clear: I am not delaying this bill. The timing is already fixed under Senate procedure. But there is extraneous language in this package that has nothing to do with reopening the government and would harm Kentucky’s hemp farmers and small businesses,” he said in a statement posted on X. “Standing up for Kentucky jobs is part of my job,” he added.
Do they even read the bills the first time?
It seems no one likes.. Omnibus bills? Where they sneak a loss of citizen rights into a "must pass" bill like this.
It happens every year and everyone hates them aside from lobbiers.
This hide-the-shit-in-the-sandwich bullshit needed to have ended decades ago, along with the filibuster.
Republicans can’t read. If they could they’d be mad at your comment.
I guess I better stock up.
I usually don't see eye to eye with Rand Paul, but this bill will effectively destroy the legal hemp and CBD industries in America, as well as the legal THC market. I'm with him on this one. I am very surprised there's nobody else fighting for it.
This will kill the delta-8 and hemp derived products not the legal at the statelevel markets.
I liked him better when his neighbor tackled him.
Paul will cave and allow this to pass, this is what he does almost every time.
That being said, I hope he doesn't. If Congress wants to increase regulation for hemp derived THC (also called Delta 8 THC) then put together a separate bill and run it through the process.
That won't happen because Congress doesn't actually pass bills anymore. They just lump everything together and slap "must pass" on it.
Also this quote is fun,
Manufacturers of beverage alcohol, one of the most highly regulated consumer products, urge the Senate to reject Sen. Paul’s attempts to allow hemp-derived THC products to be sold devoid of federal regulation and oversight across the country
This type of THC has been available for several years with minimal regulation and the US has been just fine.
Edit: Reading articles is difficult. At the time of the article posting (~2pm Monday) Paul hadn't "caved". At the time of my comment (Tuesday) he already had.
The Sunday vote was cloture, aka we're done debating.
The Senate had already taken a major first step toward ending the shutdown Sunday night, voting to end debate on a motion to proceed to a House-passed continuing resolution. But procedural rules require 30 hours of “post-cloture” debate before senators can vote to proceed, followed by four more votes to pass the full funding package.
The Monday vote happened around 8pm, since that was less than 30 hours later there must have been another vote to skip the 30 hour timer.
Given the timing Paul, at best, delayed the vote by 6 hours.