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"Standing up to trump didnt work.. sure republicans were panicking and melting down at the overwhelming support democrats had at the time, literally convinced the GOP was on the verge of extinction, and had the overwhelming majority of people blaming Republicans for it all..
but I didnt want to risk the ACA subsudies actually going through, cause thats what I've already built my next campaign around, so we gave trump everything he wanted without getting a single thing"
Very nicely summarized
I’m so glad those who were put in place to speak for me decided to roll over and get ass fucked because why not. These people don’t deserve to show their face in public anymore, what a fucking disgrace.
Walter Masterson has a great video on trolling Chuck Schumer https://youtu.be/GzJBjVwWS6A
P.s. there fixed your algorithm for ya
In any other circumstance, this would be the end of the conversation. There's no point in further conversation because even when their entire job is literally "do nothing", they refuse to do it. So, you walk away, tell Security to remove them from the building, and let them know all further communication will be done through legal representation.
The fact that this isn't happening shows that the entire system was doomed to begin with.
"Standing Up to Trump Didn't Work...so I took the money and decided to get out of politics" FTFY
It literally was. His approval was collapsing. Why the fuck is this so hard for anyone with an ounce of power?
They like retaining power more than actually standing up for what is right.
I got news about that retention with the direction we are going
Pretty sure all the ones that did this aren't up for election.
These slimy fucks just used the shutdown to win the elections.
We need to impeach them, or somehow get the electorate to have a memory longer than a goldfish
STOP thinking about Yourself and START thinking about the Rich People who's Private Jets were being Grounded and Stocks going DOWN! This was ALMOST becoming a TRAGEDY! It's a GOOD thing Dems caved when they did before something CATASTROPHIC happened like ~~MILLIONS of Children going Hungry!~~ ~~MILLIONS of Working Class Families losing Healthcare!~~ Rich people Feeling UNCOMFORTABLE!
LESS THAN ONE FUCKING WEEK AFTER SWEEPING ELECTION DAY
Yup. Snatching defeat from the stomach of victory.
I mean these spinless MF'ers had to reach down deep, past the jaws of victory, just to pull out the comfort of being a conservative.
Democrats held out until after the election, that's all this was.
They promised big things for the election and then went back to the status quo as soon as it was over.
Same as it ever was for these ratfuckers.
These traitors need to be removed from office.
Fucking christ, I hate Neoliberals
The Democrats who caved just happened to be all safe in their districts with no upcoming elections. This is strategic like everything in politics. They stood to make more money by caving so it wasn't just these eight, it was a group decision.
Not solving healthcare will of course work to their advantage. Gotta keep dangling that affordable healthcare carrot. Did you expect them to tackle another big important issue?
I wonder if I am getting little too cynical sometimes but the Democrats always convince I am not.
Just make him a fucking king already then, you spineless mollusks. That'll make your jobs much easier so you won't have to make hard decisions like choosing to fight for your constituents.
Uhh, more Americans blamed Republicans and Trump's approval tanked.
This guy is full of fucking shit. There was no reason relent and it would've set Dems up for success next year.
Primary them all.
When they say "standing up to Trump didn't work" they actually mean that their corporate donors got mad at them and threatened to cut them off
Well this is pretty much exactly what Republicans needed.
They pitched that they were perfectly willing to be reasonable and the democrats were the crazy ones.
Now they pass an extension, specifying to block the non-existent illegal immigrant gap and say "see, we were ready to take care of the people, but the democrats forced things to be bad, and these few democrats reluctantly came over which just proves they were in the wrong"
Another chunk of what I assume is their strategy: Make 2025 bad in ways to make it easier to make 2026 feel great by comparison.
The Democrats don't do shit except send me weekly texts from ActBlue begging for money. That's the only time I hear from them or there is some outreach. I'll never send a cent ever again. The state of our country is partially their fault for not even maintaining a functional party with candidates that don't require holding your nose.
Remember how well "if you can't fight them, join them!" worked for all of those people in Nazi Germany and WW2? Definitely caving in to the Nazis was a smart move...
Trump is a loser piece of shit wannabe Nazi, you don't cave to Nazis, you fight them at all costs because caving is always worse than you think it is.
Tbf you'd have to actually try first instead of caving immediately.
Senator Angus King is in the Trump/Epstein files confirmed.
How the fuck would he know?
If he thinks it doesn't work, then why doesn't he resign? The whole point of having senators is that they have some power and if they simply don't believe they have any, then they literally serve no purpose. And it's one thing to fight against Trump and lose and realize that you were mistaken, that you thought you had some control. But it's another to keep working your job and collecting the paycheck while openly admitting you're powerless.
Being a democrat is like having commanding officers most of which cannot grasp which end of a gun the bullets come from.
It's not stupidity or cowardice, the dems who voted to reopen are doing this on purpose. Their interests dont align with the well being of the vast majority of Americans.
Ok...after today, It's possible I may need to retract that a little.
Millenials, Gen Z this is your chance. Start running to take congress and senate positions in the next elections. Or find new people to support. Things do not have to stay the way they have been. There is enough of the voting population outside of the boomer gen now to change voting outcomes but you need to put yourself out there and not hope for someone else to do it for you.
In the meantime, do what you can with your spending. Don't send any money to billionaires even if that means giving up stuff you currently buy. Time to start starving the billionaire class since the (current) governments are owned by them.
Did King really believe this, or were there other reasons why he caved? His son, Angus King III, is running for governor of Maine, and Senator King’s decision may have been a misguided attempt to help him. King is also not up for reelection until 2030, so perhaps he thought he could escape electoral consequences.
Isn't the election already over? How does caving now help? And if the gubernatorial election hasn't happened yet, well, vote for the other Democratic candidate, I guess?
"Man who climbed halfway up small hill before giving up says reaching the top is impossible"
Oh boy is that sad. Standing up to Trump works just fine. To put it politely, you get fucked for sure when you roll over, at least when you stand up there's a chance.
I've heard this argument that the deal they got wasn't going to get any better in a few places. What are the counter arguments to that?
Because it was working, trumps numbers are down a bit, the election losses. But those didn't phase the Republicans at all seemingly. I personally think they still should have held out, but I don't have any logic for my stance. Is there any?
Yes. All the same logic for dealing with a bully. The next "deal" will be worse. Now they know they can push as hard as they want and the opposition will always cave. This was the one chance the Dems had to show a spine against this admin and now it's gone.
Caving to Trump, though, works just great -- for Trump and GOP, Certainly not for amyone else, such as theUS public,