this post was submitted on 07 Nov 2025
116 points (100.0% liked)

news

24443 readers
522 users here now

Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.

Rules:

-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --

Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed.

All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body.

If you are citing a Twitter post as news, please include not just the twitter.com URL but also Xcancel.com (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance, such as Libredirect or archive them as you would any other reactionary source (archive.today, web.archive.org, ghostarchive.org). Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed.

Mass-tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken Markov chain bot will result in a comm ban.

Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.

Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned.

Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
all 43 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 94 points 6 days ago (3 children)

honestly a bit impressed with the dems here, because we've definitely gone beyond the line of expectations the fractious GOP had for this shutdown. they can usually count on just enough dems to fold when bluffed with brinksmanship.

the panic is setting in and trump publicly crapping on the GOP senate for not removing the filibuster exposes that the GOP could have ended the shutdown at any time IF they could all agree.

all of which jives with the GOPs 9+ month victory lap and triumphalism since the inauguration, so the blame is increasingly resting in republicans for everything that has been occuring. they run everything, so the giant turd on the dinner table is all theirs.

i think they're going to panic and actually make an official public try to remove the filibuster (instead of waiting to prove it will pass using back channel discussions first), which may further expose deep dissent within the bloc if it fails, or completely up-end the political calculus of the senate (a historically anti-worker body) permanently if it passes. the filibuster has acted as a check against populist sentiment for so long, its hard to say what might come after, good or bad, in the near and less near term.

and also, the looming lack of payroll for the military continues to haunt imperial aggression and posturing. like how do you give an eff about "duty" when your family back home can't pay the bills heading into winter?

im not really saying all this to be optimistic, but this is all cool zone type shit and its wild af imo to watch unfold.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 57 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Also impressed with the dems here ngl. The fall will always be the administration's, first and foremost.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I think it’ll be really easy for them to recursively blame the other side for the shut down. ‘They want you to die from hunger just so the illegals will get out of jail’. It’s a willing populace, we are dumb as shit

[–] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 45 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The average American may be dumb but it’s almost always the party in charge that gets the blame when things are bad.

The issue is they don’t carry that past the next election or connect the dots enough to realize the true cause of most of their issues is capitalism.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Our job is to help connect the dots

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

Exactly. We can say the people are too dumb to notice, but none of us were born with this knowledge. It's the job of the organized left to spread this knowledge. Something I myself I admit I need to get better on.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago

"You've surely noticed that something like this has happened every day of your life, for several decades now..."

wall-talk

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago

I think this week's election results show that people aren't really buying the bs right now. Mamdani centering class issues in his campaign instead of identity has forced both Democrats and republicans to react in a way that is likely to be electorally devastating to Republicans.

my dipshit coworker will 100% believe that forever

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago

Impressed they haven’t caved but they’ve been shit at capitalizing on this. Every single dem politician should be out there saying “we are doing this so the GOP doesn’t gut Medicaid. As soon as they take that out the budget we are ready to sign”. That is a 100% winning message Americans would get behind and they haven’t really done it.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 6 days ago
[–] ghosts@hexbear.net 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Doesn't their fear of ending the fillibuster kind of imply that they aren't going for the whole enchilada, so to speak? It's only important to keep if they think they'll lose the majority before they're done with properly ratfucking the opposition and..whatever the fuck else they've been trying to do?

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They probably think there's a good chance they only have a 2 year window before they're out.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, it’s a seminal moment for them, they were inevitably going to face this juncture, eliminate the filibuster and consolidate power is what they’ll find themselves pretty amenable to

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

for sure. i think the most extreme, servile-to-trump, ride or die portion are probably all for removing the filibuster. they aren't imagining a post-trump landscape, they are living for the moment.

but there is certainly some portion of republican senators hedging for a political career in a post-trump landscape, and just maybe aren't all that keen to disconnect the emergency brake given how completely off the rails things have gone in the last 9 months.

what portion falls on either side is the mystery, because of course they all want to appear loyal to the MAGA for as long as it benefits them.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 57 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Looking forward to them removing the filibuster, doing whatever they want, losing the Senate, and then having the Democrats reinstate the filibuster once they have control.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 39 points 6 days ago (2 children)

“I really worry about what’s going to happen to the government workforce,” because of “regular” shutdowns, Hassett said, warning they could deter people from joining the federal workforce.

Isn't that the whole point?!

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 6 days ago

They literally laid off hundreds of thousands of employees and are now worried about deterring people from working for them. How did he miss the signs flashing in front of him?

it is but they want to have people forget that "starve the beast" has been an open part of republican ideology for like 30 years

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 38 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

DAY 38 EVERYBODY! DAY 38! LOOKING FORWARD TO DAY 39! catgirl-flop

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is this the longest one yet?

[–] BadTakesHaver@hexbear.net 30 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Can someone briefly explain why the gov. shutdown started? There's so much news lately I missed the exact cause of this

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

there's a bunch of medicaid cuts and shit in the proposed budget so it's being filibustered, and because we have the ingenious system of "not just re-using last year's budget" everything just grinds to a halt

the repubs have been trying super hard to twist this into "the left is holding the government hostage until we give illegal immigrants free hrt" and i think it's not working, the "everything is the president's fault" level of political engagement in this country seems to be holding strong

[–] wellheh@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 6 days ago

The sad part is it wasn't always this way and the government always paid even when the budget wasn't set in stone. As with a lot of things not working, this problem started with Nixon deciding he would punish programs he didn't like by defunding them. Also it is hard not to blame the GOP when they control all branches of government- you'd need to be sleeping to ignore that or just delusional

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If you blow off your toe my shooting yourself in the foot it's gonna hurt. A lot. Yet this guy is surprised.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 13 points 6 days ago

Fun fact: someone in a very red tiny town I lived in actually had a limb amputated because they were bright enough to be playing with a shotgun while drunk. Over legal age too. Idk their political preferences or how they feel/felt about public assistance programs because it was a news blip and they remained nameless but definitely God, guns, and drunkenness go together like PBJ and milk in the South.