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[–] passepartout@feddit.org 191 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

The next thing will be: I can't toggle my AC because AWS is down.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

your seats overheat and get stuck in the most forward position

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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're lucky if it lets you start the car.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Are you? I think I would rather a car that doesn't start than a car that doesn't have breaks

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

Or perhaps, I can’t toggle my AC because I forgot to pay my subscription fee.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 124 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

Everything after THIS was a mistake.

1985 Nissan 300ZX

[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space 47 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, that was my first car. Sometimes, the display changed to something weird though, like this:

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

One of my best good mates in school had an 84 200 that we dubbed Tron cause of this awesome setup. Great share, thanks!

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[–] TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I’d argue split climate for the driver and passenger seat is the only important missing innovation.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just point the vents fancyman

[–] mearce@programming.dev 14 points 2 weeks ago

I somewhat regularly drive 9+ hours and split controls are not really comparable to just pointing the vents. If I am the driver, I need cool air blowing at me to keep me awake and alert. No longer having to compromise with passengers has been a pretty big improvement for a drive that long.

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[–] mearce@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That and the ability to set a temperature that is then automatically maintained.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn't go full blast at the beginning, it's amazing.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Automatic AC is good. Having an accident while looking at which part of the touchscreen the finger has to press is straight retarded engineering.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

So, even better argument for auto climate control. Set it once when you first get in your car and are still parked, then leave it. However, yes buttons please. If this meme is about buttons vs touch screen, then I strongly agree with the meme. My vehicle not only has the auto climate, but also it is using buttons. They're stupid capacitive touch buttons that Hyundai has since switched back away from, but at least they're always in the same spot and I don't have to change any screens to access them.

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[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I wish my wife understood how that worked. She always gets in, and since the engine hasn’t warmed up yet, the heat doesn’t come on, so she cranks it up to 30C.

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My wife's car is like that, you set it to 72 and it'll blast really hot air or really cold air depending on the outside temperature vs inside. I wish it just blasted 72 degree air. I just always use it in manual mode now so its not constantly switching.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.

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[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] percent@infosec.pub 35 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I almost agree with this, but I prefer just one more advancement over this: the thermostat kind. I like to just set the temperature so I don't have to keep adjusting it.

Nothing fancy, no touchscreen bs, just simple knobs. I was perfectly happy with the thermostat feature in my old 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT.

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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

So long as the vents have analog dials that manipulate how much air is coming out. Otherwise I'd have to be pro left/right temperature difference. When it's 100 degrees out side and someone says the AC is to cold it blows my mind

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If there is 100 degrees, your water boils.

[–] cmoney@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Probably means 100 degrees of Freedom° units no C°

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[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Then the a/c can't be too cold!

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[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I disagree. I like that I can set my temperature to an exact number and the car will automatically adjust to that temp. We should have stopped there. No need for touch screens. That’s was the holy grail of temperature control.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I’d add being able to set a different temperature for the driver and passenger. It’s a godsend for relationships.

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[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wrong. This has no ads. How will I become a tech billionaire if I can't disable your breaks until you watch my ad?

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Yours is a decade or two past the true ideal. Not pictured: the 5-inch sliding control that mechanically adjusted between recirculated and exterior air and the drivers and passengers pull-knob by the feet that let exterior air flow in directly. A heavenly touring experience.

Also on the one pictured in your post, I find those lit press to toggle ac and def buttons with indicator lights wore out over time and required a ton of force to switch on the cars I've had with them.

[–] Hypocrite9554@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Spot the roach

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ironically, my 2018 Subaru is more mechanical than this. 2/3 dials are mechanical, cable-driven flaps / valve for heat and vent control. Only the fan is an electric dial.

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[–] Ordinary_Person@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I've got an old car and it's still like this. I don't look forward to the day I have to get a new car.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I want to set my hvac to a temp and let it sort out whether it should heat or cool.

[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Except backup cameras. Everything else is bad

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Backup cameras are cool but they'll never stay backup cameras. Give manufacturers that screen, and well, if you have it, you've gotta use it

The Sprinter I used to drive for work had a backup proximity alarm that beeped faster as you got closer to walls/cars/etc; it was fantastic. Only downside is I don't know how well it would detect people

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Screens aren't the problem, touchscreens are the problem. I have a screen but no touchscreen. Works great.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

How fast do you want it, how hot do you want it, where do you want it

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Only missing a night picture with the red LED backlight on

Yes the temp sensor is a worthy addition to the formula. Imagine fiddling with your 80s/90s A/C running on ye olde R-12 to get the temperature right lol.

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[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My honda civic has this perfectly balanced (this is a stock photo):

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[–] Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First gen tundra controls really are excellent. They and used mechanical linkages for the diverter and for the hot/cold control. The only problem is the knobs get loose over time and can break or fall off when you accellerate.

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol how hard are you accelerating that you dials fly off

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ever notice how social politics got all fucked up when these went away?

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

However you probably don't miss the manual choke valve, double clutching, hand winded starter crank, or even window cranks.

There was really no golden period of car controls. It went fluidly from one kind of shit to another kind of shit.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

From 2006-2012 we had decently reliable, simple to operate vehicles, that got not shit gas mileage

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[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

I still have this. I can adjust all of it without ever looking at knobs while driving. Good luck doing that with touch bs.

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 7 points 2 weeks ago

Hard disagree. Physical buttons with a digital temperature and split controls for left and right (and maybe rear as well). Automatic climate control that also does the fans. I had all of this on a car in 2010, and it was perfect - I could just leave the temperature set at what I wanted all the time, and the fans would blow hard if it needed to heat or cool significantly to get there.

Some manufacturer's, eg Volvo, don't automatically adjust the fans, which is wank. But nothing is as wank as touch screen controls - I fucking hate it when you're trying to aim at a button, then as you go in to press the car bumps and you completely miss.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

This works well and it's not a hill I'll defend but automatic control of temperature is better when it's done well. In the UK we have a culture of driving cars with manual transmission and I've never understood it when automatic transmissions exist and are pretty good. People wanna feel like they are in control of stuff.

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