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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

The worst part is: yes! Tons of studies come to that conclusion. Be it reading comprehension, lead poisoning, or the active dismantling of the US education system for the last eight decades, it's all part of the same picture. But what can you do about it if the group of preteens is self governing and won't see the problem?

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

When I was 12 I wanted to send the worst criminals to live in prisons in Somalia so that Somolies could have jobs and we would never have to see criminals…

And now there is a literal version of that idea from a 12 year old

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Although Hanlon's razor says "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity", I'd argue never misjudge malicious intent for stupidity. The first makes you just look a bit dumb, the second makes you a victim.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 5 days ago

i'm introducing Marx' Flaming Laser Sickle, which says that i don't give a fuck about the underlying cause if the effect is fascism.

[–] BogeyTheSwear@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

What if the stupidity is caused by decades of malicious dismantling of the education system?

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

After a certain tipping point, stupidity en masse becomes indistinguishable from malice. The result is more important than the intent.

I think there does come a point where stupidity and malice are basically the same thing.

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think you're underestimating 12-year olds here.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The group I play D&D with has three 12-year olds in it and I would put any of those kids in charge of this country over any of the current administration and those kids are morons.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 days ago

i mean, i would put the liz truss cabbage in charge of the american government at this point

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[–] 5parky@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This concept could be an entire Lemmy community.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 5 days ago

c/YeahButYoure12

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

build it. i will join.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 6 days ago (7 children)

I mean i just want to note for a second that the aging retardant properties of humanity are one of the great miracles that puts us above other species.

Most other mammal species, including dogs, cats, camels, zebras, horses, cattle, sheep, whatever farm animal/pet you can think of typically lives no longer than 20 years, while for humans it's routinely 80 years, about 4x as long.

That, it turns out, is one of humanity's great strengths. We age significantly slower, and that includes a significantly longer childhood. Most feral animals grow up and reach puberty within 1-3 years, while for humans it takes at least 12 years (even longer if you wait to be socially accepted as an "adult"). This gives us more time to play, figure things out, learn, and develop. It is for this reason that we're able to pull off more amazing things than other species, because our long lifes warrant that getting a long, proper education is worth it. Because if we only lived for 20 years, it would hardly be worth it to study till you're 25 years old.

So, aging slower, and staying childish for longer, is actually one of humanity's great strengths. It is unfortunate, i believe, that we're trying to remove that human specialty in these days and trying to make people grow up faster.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

that puts us above other species.

What, why? Axolotls can regrow limbs and a jellyfish (Turritopsis dohrnii) is biologically immortal. Try that as a mere human.

And btw, please stop with that "we are above animals" thinking. That's what makes us think the world is ours alone and leads to destruction and shrinking bio diversity. And we are animals too anyway.

[–] dbtng@eviltoast.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

With that reasoning, turtles, parrots, should be put above humans?

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

I think 12 may be too high. Most kids I've knew who acted like that were like 6.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
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