Martyrs only work with a population that gives a shit.
If someone dies to ICE shooting them to become a martyr, they just become a statistic, because Americans dont give a shit apparently.
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Martyrs only work with a population that gives a shit.
If someone dies to ICE shooting them to become a martyr, they just become a statistic, because Americans dont give a shit apparently.
See, the point on full display here is that the ICE isn't allowed to or aren't stupid enough to shoot protestors. Anybody who thinks the worst that can happen when confronting an angry mob is some broken windows has obviously never read any history books: entire towns can be burnt to the ground if things escalate.
There is no martyr because shooting one of them is the dumbest shit they could possibly do. The ICE show up with their military fetishism gear to intimidate you, but that's all it is. It's them playing dressup. They're not authorized to use those guns unless their life is in danger, and when they do use those guns then their life will be in danger.
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Where the fuck was he taught to tuck his gun in his belt like this? Fucking hastily trained amateurs.
Trained? Don't they just apply, given a gun, mask, and pointed towards a brown person?
Nah, it’s not the police. These imbeciles probably bring their own guns, which is why this one dropped his.
Fucking meatheads.
This was a reference to a South Park episode btw. Worth a watch if you enjoy laughing.
The bullets fell out of his gun, too, and he didn't notice them on the ground the whole time he was walking around even when he stepped on them. And I don't think he put one in the chamber before the whole debacle got underway. If shit had gone sideways and he'd pulled the trigger, nothing would have happened, I think.
I thought maybe one of the spare magazines fell out of his vest, but it looks like he has 3 before and 3 after. I think he was unarmed that whole time.
You can see the magazine in his hand and if you look at the right moment the pistol has no magazine in it.
That doesn't mean there isn't one in the chamber.
Definitely. I do think though that in his imagined scenario where there was a threat of serious bodily harm from the crowd, that "BANG click click click click" event would have been about the worst possible thing that could have happened.
I mean the whole thing was imaginary. No one in the crowd was planning to do anything other than yell at him, and he pulled the gun out just from fear. I'm just kind of highlighting an additional angle of his lack of any competency. It was only the fact that no one was trying to hurt him that kept him safe, he pretty much did everything possible to put himself in additional danger.
Edit: Oh, directing random cars to drive around a few feet away from this volatile situation was just another element of incredibly dangerous stupidity. I feel like probably he just did it because he wanted to reestablish some kind of control, to give some instructions to somebody since none of the ones he was giving were being followed and that wasn't how he thought it was supposed to happen because he's Billy Badass and he's supposed to be in charge.
He also jams his gun into his pants and then immediately shoves the hand of the guy they're restraining into the same spot.
I'm no gun expert, but that seems like a bad idea.
Agreed, but still not likely. Whatever the case is, this person has no clue how to handle firearms safely in any way shape, or form.
Most modern pistols won't fire if the magazine is ejected. Although not something one wants to figure out in the heat of the moment.
Even worse: When that gun was tucked in his belt like this, it doesn't take much for the trigger to be accidentally pulled by a crease of his clothing or gear he's carrying, resulting in him shooting himself in the pelvis. Also, had the suspect actually been violent there would have been a risk of him grabbing it. It was right there within easy reach.
Even worse
shooting himself in the pelvis
Is that worse though?
He went for the "shoot my dick off", appendix carry. He went for his CCW holster, and it wasn't there.
It ended up being more like the Calvin Klein holster
ICE is directed by jan 6 insurrectionists
they got all the 'training' they need:
“I have to protect my people.”
not you. not 'them'. just 'my people'.
The gun fumble omfg, guy being kidnapped very nearly grabbed it. Then it takes 8 minutes for 4 guys to put on handcuffs and get out of the intersection!?! Reckless, untrained and dangerous for everyone around them.
Drops his own gun next to the hand of the guy he's arresting, then hastily picks it up to point it at the people recording him. Incredible.
Holy fuck
It’s worth watching in the video. The incompetence is a sight to behold.
The jacked-up idiot drops his gun at about 57 seconds in. Then the man he’s holding down bats it five feet away and the clown dives after it.
Such a hero
I kept waiting for his glasses to fall off.
Lmao. The glasses really sent me.
Somehow this is real life.
I’m wondering if they were on the top of his head and they fell down off-frame to the granny look? I can’t remember where they were before butterfingers dropped his gun.
Yeah, they were up on top of his head. I was waiting for them to go before the fumble.
who decided to make Lahey an ICE agent? Where's Randy?
Fucking brownshirt losers.
The IDF hasn't trained them yet, they've been busy.
He should have been taken down by a good guy with a gun immediately - pointing a gun at someone is a felony, and these brown coats have no training or accountability.
There are no good guys with guns in Maryland, the state restricted that right away from most citizens.
They're being called Brown Coats? Malcom Reynolds would be furious to learn this.
I love the Firefly reference, but I think they meant the brownshirts: Braunhemden)
Another day in Nazi America.
Republicans wonder why people don't like ICE here. Wtf.
They don’t wonder. They revel in the fact that city folks hate ice. They’re just whiny little bitches with persecution complexes. They’re only joy is thinking they got back at their perceived enemies.
Heartbreaking to hear the guy calling out for help.
Wait who is the terrorist organization again? It's these guys right? Right?
Who'd have guessed that fascist trash is incompetent?
amateurs almost gave him the gun - what an inhuman embarrassment
Fascist scum